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Mota's Luther Dogman Round 2

Posted by bluebach - 9 minutes ago -

KNEW when I threw these seeds down 8 months ago they would yield something special. My first run of these, Luther Dogman
(EARLY Sensi Star X ChemDawg 4) was a mess.............took some cuts, got a MITE INVASION(and learned a lesson) and my entire
grow and ALL Cabinets were INFECTED. It was pretty ugly...............REALLY.

Had 2 different phenos 1st run. Both yielded well, and the smoke was superior, EVEN infested, dry, and poorly grown............ARGH.....
I had to run them again.

Have not been up here much lately............took me 3 months and 4 or 5 aborted grows to get rid of the MITE INFESTATION...........OMG!!!
Finally had to take IT ALL DOWN...........take cuts from Mothers and kill off Mom's(yup, infested entire grow, including mothers) and fog
rooms and Cabs over and over to rid myself of the lil vermin................

The poor Sugar Punch suffered so bad.....................i feel really bad about them.............they will run in next couple of Cabs.
The problem was so bad, I HAD THE PINK SP Pheno all the time...........and did not know it!!! They were struggling so bad they
never grew well or showed their color. Pheno 4 IS THE PINK PHENO...........Thank God I "gifted" her to 2 other people,
and will get her back!!!!! When I do, 2 full Cabs will be devoted to the Pink Sugar Punch.........

I present NON mite eaten Luther Dogman:

6 plants, full 'Dro, 2 X 4 X 7 Cabinet. Always use GH nutes, Lucas Fromula on this Cab. Twin 400's over their heads, 665 cfm
axial fan pulling air from top vent. These girls are looking me in the eye, take out bucket height, they are solid 5 footers

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Buds are extremely thick and HEAVY.

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Feels good to be back on point..........and not hurting the ladies............. Launch Full Topic

Pinned Open Grow Word Association Part XIII

Posted by wee-zard - 13 minutes ago -

Let's have a word to start it off. Launch Full Topic

stoned ramblings, say or post anything you want.

Posted by kta1428 - 21 minutes ago -

My GF asked me to roll a hash joint tonight, you may have seen how I do it, I roil a little log of hash and put it in a joint.

We just harvested some blue dream and it seemed a bit too damp to put in the grinder so she asked me to roll a hash joint with roaches in my little box. I rolled the piece of hash into the shape of a little snake (as MrDirt calls it) and put it in the papers. I tore up some half smoked joints and a couple of them had a hash snake inside of them already. So I put the snakes of hash of those two joints into the paper, and then the new snake of hash and a little weed in to keep it burning. The joint was pretty big, it must have weighed over a gram. I handed it to her and went to wash the resin off of my hands. I come into the bedroom to see her pulling on that big joint and blowing out big bellows of smoke. She did that old cough cough cough cough cough thing for a few minutes, but still managed to get about three or four hits. I took only one, which is sort of usual for me. Oh Man did I get high. It is actually the first smoke I had in a few days. Anyway, one hit and I am loaded. Next thing I know she says she is going to throw up, She gets up and moves around, gets closer to the bathroom and starts talking all this sicky shit. I say you took like 4 hits and that thing was filled with super fire hash. Anyway, she will have a drink of coke or a cookie and be fine in a few minutes I imagine.

I have been on the computer all day. We did leave to just drive around town a little, look at some garage sales. She seen a set of ladies golf clubs, almost brand new and she bought them for almost nothing (Golden Bear, whole set, bag, irons and woods $10). Clubs look like they may have been used once. I never get deals like this.

So we drive around town some more and come to this Giant field where we run our dogs and I hit golf balls with my pitching wedge. She wanted a lesson. Since she is just starting I put the ball on the tee for her and had her use a 8 iron. After a couple tries she starts to get a little air and starts to really like it. She tells me she is on for golf now. She did seem to take my instructions pretty good, head down, arms straight, so on. She is kind of strong too, from walking huge pit bulls around on a leash every day (for years). I may have created a monster. I no longer have the golf course as a place of peace and solitude anymore.

She was good at using her irons off the tee, there are a lot more elements to the game. She will probably do well at all of them though. I seem to have a way to teach people stuff fast. I taught my brother to ski in one day for instance. It is not like I am a pro at golfing or skiing, but I have had lessons for both and remember what was taught to me. Maybe tomorrow I will have her use her driver.

We ran the shit out of the dogs too. I love to see them run at this park. My pup turns 1 year old today and we have been wishing him happy birthday for three days. He runs like a bull! I like the idea of wearing him out so that he will sleep well, but in doing this we are building his body. We took him to the vet for a weighing and check up (86lbs) and the doctor noted that he was pure muscle, something that I already knew. This year has been challenging and it don't look to be getting any easier. He is the most needy, greedy, forceful, powerful, vocal dog I have ever seen. He wants everything I have and don't let up. While I am making hash today he kept crying and scratching on me. I had to keep handing him ice cubes out of the bucket to shut him up. I compare growing my pure Colombian Jamaican Sativa to having a pup like this at my age.
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My girl has been sort of upset the past couple of days, she just heard her father was in the advanced stages of cancer and I find her crying when I catch her alone. I need to be good to her, better than usual. Launch Full Topic

Micro Box with 105W CFL

Posted by bluebach - 29 minutes ago -

Hi. Hope this is in the right place. The last grow I did (my first proper grow) was documented here: https://www.opengrow...without-lights/

This will be a very similar grow, but with slightly higher powered lights, and reflective coating on the box.

I just spent the day covering the inside of my Micro Box with Diamond Mylar. I'm fairly happy with it, though I need to do a few tweaks here and there to iron out some kinks, but on the whole, it's pretty much ready to go.

I still haven't decided which seeds I'm going to use. I decided against the 2 Fast 2 Vast as it's crossed with skunk and I don't have my odour control in order. I'm still deciding how to go about this, it's a real pain, but with some luck, I should have it sorted out this grow. I'm on to it!

I'm going back to the trusty auto NL. Either Vision or Nirvana auto Northern Lights, this time. Then again I am considering auto Blue Mystic. It's a NL crossed with Blueberry iirc. They say the smell is pretty mild, so it's on the short list. I'm pretty isolated where I am, but I don't want to shout it from the rooftops either. I'm going to use up the Kera diamond XL or wtf it's called, to chuck it on my window sill. I don't really care if it does well. It was free and it's a NL breed, so again, it shouldn't be too 'loud'. I'm hoping both seeds germ ok and become healthy seedlings. If not I've got a few in back up ready to go. I just want to crack on with this quickly now.

I've decided just to only ever do TWO plants at one time. So for now there is one for the Micro Box and one for the window sill. Hopefully by the end of the year, I will have my ScroG Box done and then I'll not bother with the window sill again (till next year) and just grow the second plant there (in the new ScroG Box). I was going to do two plants in there, but I'm getting ahead of myself. One plant should be enough, it's not that big anyway.

I've ordered a couple of 35W 6400K CFLs for 'vegging' (yeah, I know it's not really 'vegging'). They should come in a bit and I'll start the seedlings off on 20-30W bulbs so as not to fry them. I think I used 23W 2700Ks before, and they did just fine. I also read some deep stuff in my research about redder spectrums being a bit better for the very first initial stages after germinating. Anyway, they did no harm before.

I'll be playing to the average (as I have worked out) of 2 X 35W 6400K (blue) and 1 X 35W 2700K (red), for 'vegging', then switching to 2 X 35W 2700K (red) and 1 X 35W 6400K (blue), for flowering. That's a 66/33 percent, or 2:1 ratio (please correct me if I am wrong), both ways - blue for 'vegging', red for flowering.

I'll be sticking to full on 24 hour from start to finish. It's only a bit more than a 100W light bulb running full time, so the electricity savings would be negligible. I also like to think the full on 24 hour cycle some how stresses the plant in some kind of good/small way, and helps to keep it small and under control. This is a small box and the shorter the plant the better. It worked before, and I'm hoping it will work again. This is counter intuitive for noobs, but if you put a plant in a low lighted area it will 'stretch' - get taller - for more light. If you put it under the cosh of a full on light bashing, it keeps its head down and doesn't grow as much - keeps shorter. Less light = more stretching. More light = less 'VERTICAL' growth. In other words, your plant won't be as tall under higher lighting, but it will more than make up for this by growing wide and budding. This is just my newbie take on it. I'm sure there is more to it. However, after LST'ing my last plant, it really just grew to the available space available to it. It didn't grow into the lights and burn itself.

As for LST:

However, I still need to LST (Low Stress Train) it. That main cola is gonna pop up and I need to get it back down as soon as. This will do something with the hormones that will trigger the other colas to all 'get in on the act' and try to be big bubba! Again, it worked before, so I'm hoping it works again. Pretty soon the main cola will do a 'left hand turn' and be facing up again, but all the other colas will be invigorated to join in with the race, with them hopefully all trying to 'pip each other at the post' like Penelope Pitstop and Dick Dastardly!

I might Super Crop it a bit, but really, I'm going to take it easy there as well, I don't want to snap off any more branches like I did last time. In such a small constricted place, things kind of take care of themselves and just a bit of subtle bending here or there should be fine. I'll document what I do as always.

Back to the lighting:

The plant can reach to within a couple of Centimeters of touching the bulb and it won't burn. This is with 35W bulbs. And adequate ventilation. Beware of the back end (the ballast) of the bulbs being much much hotter. In a confined space such as this, this is a concern.

My last grow used no more than 95W at one time, so this will be consistently 10W more all along. I decided against using the CCFLs as they will add heat and I was on the edge before in the heat of summer. I will keep them for my ScroG Box for later. I have 2 X 90MM computer fans that push out just enough air (I've worked it out properly) that is sucked in by the passive intakes (about double the size of the surface (diameter) area of the fans iirc).

I'll be using the same soil (Plant Magic) and nutes (Bio Silicon + Old Timer Bloom). I'm going to take it a lot easier on the nutes again this time and definitely easier on the watering. :-)


I gave the cabinet a good clean and disinfected it today, before I put the Mylar on. I decided against ripping out all the wiring and plugs and doing it all from scratch - not enough time - but sod that anyway. It's not absolutely perfect, but I lost patience with it. It took me about 6 hours all in all to complete it. I learned how to work the Mylar. It can be very frustrating with just one pair of hands - two would be better. But I got the hang of it, even understanding how to tear and cut out the holes for the fans by pressing (with one hand) against the edge of the hole, and ripping very carefully with the other hand (fingers). I could do better next time. I still have enough left to kit out my ScroG Box which is about double the volume, maybe.

This grow, if I can get 2 ounces when dried, like I did last time, I'll be more than happy. The NL was a very decent tasting smoke of a very decent potency. I'm looking to get THREE GROWS in by the end of the year - one in my new ScroG Box hopefully, if I can get my odour control in order and it built on time.


I've taken a few photos before my battery ran out in my camera of the new box. Not sure how good they are. Should give you an idea.

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That would be all for now. I'm sorry, I got a bit carried away between doing a grow guide and a grow journal kind of thing. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I'll try to keep it limited and not blah on too much about theory. I'm assuming most of the people reading here already know this stuff, and if I state some basic knowledge, it's to help those that are new to the scene. Hopefully it won't annoy those more learned, and stop them from enjoying this report. I also hope that those more learned that see me making mistakes, will be happy to correct me, as I go along.

If you're a noob reading this and need advice about how to construct the Micro Box, whether it's the wiring up of fans or the airflow needed (fluid dynamics), or the rational for the ratio of light spectrums used etc. feel free to ask and I'll do my best to help you out and share my research. I kind of get the impression this is a forum for more experienced people though. But if I can give something back to those just starting out, I'm happy to do so.

As to everyone else, and all the old hands and experienced growers (Sannie, most of all) - thanks again - for providing such a great little quiet corner of the net, that just lets things flourish and grow in their own time. Launch Full Topic


Posted by kta1428 - 32 minutes ago -

Finally made the move to the PNW. Here is what I have going, its been a long road getting here but now life is on cruise control... :smoke

Started these inside under a 315w LEC
18 gallon Home made Sub Irrigated Planter Bins
Organic No till soil mix, home made compost/ewc with locally sourced forest duff and peat, minimal amendments, a ton of beneficial plants from around the property, and of course lots of worms. All let to sit and meld together for a few months.

Started a couple months ago...sugar punch, tn sweet skunk, tn pine skunk, blue ridge lemon skunk , c99xbubblegum and a few others....

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Last 5 pictures are from this past Sunday...Going to have some trees by the end of the season.
Im toying with the idea of light dep to get some of these sativas to finish in time, we will see... Launch Full Topic