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  1. It's like endorsements in any sport. You attract the attention of say an LED maker by growing a large and perfect crop for instance and promising some very nice video footage of your massive bounty growing beneath their lights. The more pricey the gear you want for a sponsor the better you have to show. be ready to have to buy gear anyway, they are not like bell helmets or nike who can just give stuff away. These guys will want something for their stuff, and start getting more generous later n if you prove useful in marketing. If all else fails just write everyone, that got me lots of free stuff when I used to race bikes.
  2. Yeah we are not really sold on plasma either. I want to use em for the spectrum, but they are not full power fixtures, they are supplemental lighting for filling in weak HPS spectrum. I want to use em exclusively because of the near sun spectrum but reality demands we go with cheaper cooler running options like mid tier LED. Those panels would rock, they're like no frills nextlights with better chips. I am even scaling back on the percentage of flower to both save startup money and save lots of headaches later trying to service 3/4 of the available space as flower. Though I am in it to make more money than I do now, the people financing me are just doing this to check out the industry and gather data for a much larger buy in later. Being the only one they know personally that even grows pot got me into this. If this goes well I may end up playing gatekeeper for these guys later on, which is way better money than growing pot. Imagine Canna industry entrepreneurs trying to get by Me.
  3. Try not to think in square meters or yards, rather think in whatever size one light covers. I think in 4 by 4 or 20 square foot or 5 by 5 or 25 square foot areas depending on what lights I am using. Plasma fixtures with two strips of spectrum lighting each set covering a 4 by 4 square foot area lined up in rows with a walk way between em. (this is if we agree to use em) we are likely just going with a middle tier LED setup. LED fixtures 101 You get what you pay for just like everything else, and these are not cheap. The middle tier lights will cost about a dollar per watt, the higher quality ones almost 2 dollars per watt. The less expensive ones cover a 4 by 4 square the more expensive ones cover a 5 by 5 square. Just like everything else, the more wattage you use the deeper your canopy gets.
  4. We are still awaiting the property, the renter is still moving out of. Then we need to find out if we can run this there, so far so good the people who own the complex seem amicable to the idea. All of the questions I have on this have to do with what the state liquor board will let us get away with and not. Floor plan stuff mostly like how many fire exits what kind of signage and where, what has to be in the canopy space and not, does it need a bathroom if there are no employees, can we run a tent for a nursery inside a one room flower canopy, what point do lots become product with a 6 month shelf life, can lots of the same plant harvested at different times be combined, how and where can we store packaged product, how much of our operating cost do we have to keep in a safe on the site, what is the standard way of contacting a retailer and can I show em product samples, what special insurance do I need, can I live in another storage unit in the same complex, stuff like that. As far as scaling goes, this is about the same as a large house grow, only less clutter. I can do this in my sleep.
  5. The plasma lights are called LEP or light emitting plasma. Gavita makes one, but there are better ones with more power. These are 300 watt lights that put out about as much light as a typical 300 watt LED, but the spectrum is almost spot on sunlight. I am after spectrum for quality more than yield in a space this size. Bloom boosters are deep red/IR led used to encourage flower set and blooming in general. These come in blue/UV as well for that frosty high mountain finish. They do not need to run near as much wattage because they are used to trigger a response in the plant rather than feeding it.
  6. I've been running a 6' vortex in an apartment full blast most of the time and getting away with it for years. nice and quiet They last a long time too
  7. I am also outfitting a 1000 sq space. (not as fast as I would like but were doin it First thing; expand to the most you can run, you will need some off canopy space for drying storing setup and processing, all of which should be done in separate spaces if practical. Good lighting is everything. For Hid you are looking at 40 1k lights for a 1000 sq space of lit canopy, so yea 30. Those cost 2 to 5 hundred each depending on what you get. For led I found there are three price points that you will need a different number of each depending. The cheap set 3 to 8 hundred each are almost all box panels like rolando with about a third (300W) of an HID light in power use heat and yields. The middle ground 1000 to 1500 are mostly high powered box lights like black dog or cobs and run about two thirds of an HID light in power use heat and yields. The upper set from 1500 to 2500 each are large fixtures either panels like nextlight or bars like fluence and will run about two thirds of an HID in power and heat while competitive on yields. It's worth noting that the newer sulfur plasma lights are mid priced and are almost exact sunlight spectrum with a CRI close to 100% that run 300W and are much cooler than HID. A combination of these (blue doped LEP) and some bloom booster (deep red spectrum) bars is what we are considering. Head room is GOOD, Do not put in a ceiling...
  8. Oh I run both. The green ver of Sugarpunch is denser sweeter tasting and stronger.
  9. Several things Live Soil and Patience. Everything we do to hurry the plants along slows them down. Let the plant really bond with the soil you are using, this can sometimes take a mother plant a couple months and shows as renewed vigor and lush growth. Larger containers, the plants grow to the size of the container they are in. Veg them till they are fully mature before flowering, make sure they are throwing large fully formed leaves and preflowers and the stalk is at least a half in and starting to get alittle barky. Never stress plants in flower, no defoliation no feeding, don't flood the lighting ect. I use plain potting soil bulked up with rock like lava and bark or wood chip, and I never feed. All I do is water. This helps in the big plants dept but I really do all this to get the quality I want at the finish.
  10. Sugar Punch It's Big It's Heavy It's Good And its Really Strong You'll be very happy you got some.
  11. That social credit rating That is what's to become of AI It's not going to be a government thing The Social Credit Score concept will soon be a part of Facebook Twitter Google ect. This will score the users overall net use morality based on similar criteria such as obedience and general devotion to duty, and assign a score that either grants better access or limits it. We will simply find it appalling.., people who grow up plugged into that system will be a whole different animal. I bet there are already social credit fixers. Cool toys though, Imagine a television that can read your children's expressions and generate cartoons specifically for them in real time.., oh wait that's already a real thing. Oh whatever. AI will Never be able to grow pot, it's way too impatient.
  12. Just got the property back from the tenant who was renting it, and had a meeting about where what is at. It's definitely happening, just not as fast as I would like. I was able to show some flowering plants this time, I am running some of the magenta stuff now. My own ver of Sirus Black, only I have it in regular seed. And the skunks of course. Finally got the guy on board with the quality and patience part of this. No you can't use a food dehydrator because it will cook off the flavor and the effect will be ruined with it. Stuff like that. The plan is to set up the small tier farm, grow old school organic, and humiliate the competition till they come up with our generous consulting fee or someone buys the farm from us, then start a larger one. So far so good, but so slow.
  13. Yea you so don't want to use food to adjust PH, you're messing with more than one variable at a time. Check your tap every watering, you'll find it runs from 8 to 9 ish if its like ours. We have soda ash added to raise the PH so the water does not eat the old city pipes. If its 8 or less your good. if more just use regular PH down, you won't need to drop to 7, just get down below 8. Then feed or whatever as normal. Reusing soil is also a bad idea. Physically you are not going to be able to retain the particle and capillary sizes you want, think soggy cereal in milk. Chemically the buffers and amendments put together by people who know their soil stuff better than we do will not be easy to replicate. Biologically there will be dead root mass throughout the soil you are reusing that have not been composted yet, which means your planting in the wrong bacteria. Blumats are the best possible way to water, good call.
  14. All that applies to the larger tier outdoor farms. Ideally the property we are using will allow for a 1000 square foot flower canopy supported by about 400 square feet of veg and nursery space. This leaves plenty of room for drying storing processing admin ect. We own the inside of the unit but not the outer building that houses it, so there are some things we cannot do. This will be losing money not being able to recycle and compost but gaining on not needing labor we don't already have. The state rules make hiring people or most other nice things we could be doing economically unworkable. The plan is to run those rubbermade totes like I always do with the usual mix of soil and bark shavings probably topped with rice hulls to keep the dust down and encourage soil fungus up to the top. I get very good results out of that with very little work, which is the key. From here much of what happens depends on the rules we have to squeeze the facility through and how much that costs vs renting a larger space that allows for more canopy and space for hash making gear. We want to put this together as cheaply as practical so it gets paid down sooner. I really don't want to be paying off the cap five years from now, I would rather be saving to go bigger.
  15. A greenhouse would be Awesome but it's the next tier up, all small tier farms are all indoor. The large tier farms are all zoned agricultural and treated as regular farms while the smaller tiers are zoned industrial or rural and treated more like cannabis factories. The rules are nowhere near as strict as I thought, the farm we are thinking of buying out is about 4 blocks away from the property we want to use. The wholesale prices are way better than I thought too. Spoke with another tier 1 farmer today who sold out at 3 and a half to 4 dollars a gram in a matter of days. They have some nice lights for sale too but we have bigger fish to fry yet. I have to embrace kushes again, flowering 12 to 14 weeks is not really a productive use of what little canopy space I'll have. Hundreds of seedlings..., Hundreds I have till at least October to get the property we want to use, unless I get blindsided by a turnkey offer that we can't pass up. That would be just like me. So now I am trying to track down two or three more of the smaller farmers locally for more advice while we shop licenses and crunch numbers. Compliance is going to be the only hurdle so far as I can tell. We have to sort out how to bill the water in a property that provides water under the assumption that nobody in a million years would ever start a farm in one of the units they own. We may just meter the place and pay the owners for it, or just not say anything depending on how much water we use in a 2000 square foot canopy. Yeeeaaah we're just gonna pay for the water...
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