scrubdog
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Hi ho hi ho it's off to work we go... I cloned the big Thai female and now have six healthy clones. So I get to play with her all over again. See if I can do a better job this time. Objectives: 1 get no mould 2 actually flower properly this time 3 get some seeds off it (using males yet to be decided) It's still midwinter here so I have them on minimum life support until the weather improves. scrubdog
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Well I took a bunch of clones but I may have left it too late. The plants were nearly dead... it is midwinter here. The leaves were are all floppy and had blight. Still I have some cuts in a cupboard, on a heat pad... under a 25watt fluoro bulb. See what happens... scrubdog
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You were quite right Robo... most of that top half died but some of it survived. The plant seemed to decide how much it could still get nutrients to and dumped the other branches. All the plants are going into that weird semi-veg state they go into when the season is over. Not budding anymore but not proper vegging either. It's almost a hibernation mode and I've over wintered sativas and run the same plant in the spring many times before at friendlier latitudes. You end up with a monstrous bush that has hundreds of bud sites. However that was much milder winter temps with only light frosts. I'm pretty certain the cold will kill these plants but I'll run them to they die anyway. It's pouring with rain as I write and forecast to last a week at least then more snow. The whole point of this extreme grow is to get some seed so i'm hanging in there trying to ripen some. All those plants were especially selected as parent seed plants and it was a pure seed crop with two huge Thai males dropping pollen all summer but I have so far not harvested a single ripe seed from any of the girls and there is at least seven big Thai (including a RoboThai) female plants in that little planting and three Neville Haze. Neville Haze growing in the snow... So anyway.... most of my sativas started flowering too late.... like just as winter started they pre-flowered!!! The ones that did flower on time (RoboThai was one that started on time but just took forever to finish and never really finished properly) got bowled over by mould which I wasn't expecting. The whole reason I grow pure landrace sativas is because they're meant to be mould resistant and I've never had Thai go mouldy on me before. I lost over 50 big Thai plants to mould this year though so it's war from now on between me and the mould. Grrr scrubdog
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Thanx Robo. I'm going to take cuttings tomorrow all going well. I hope the plant is still alive though I should be able to get cuttings off the bottom half anyway. I remembered you doing it to your huge Thai plant and that gave me the idea. Man I was reading your thread and you sure do grow a mix of varieties every season. I like to do the same so I don't build up a tolerance to one strain but I don't grow as many different strains as you. You're an inspiration to me Robo so keep up the good work. scrubdog
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Thankyou sir. I was a bushman long before I was a grower. I love the outdoors and nature and wilderness and I love plants. I don't just grow weed. I grow flowers and veggies. But yes... I try to work with nature... rather than fighting to control it. I grow a bit for the deer and a bit for the bugs and a bit for the weather... and hope they all leave a bit for me. That's the theory anyway. I use no fences or cages around plants (just too obvious from the air where I live). Yes I have been growing a long time and done some huge outdoor crops simply to get the numbers needed to pick breeding plants. Having said that though I felt like a complete novice this season and made a lot of rookie mistakes through lack of time to plan properly and lack of knowledge regarding local terrain and conditions. Every year I learn new stuff and whenever I start to get a bit arrogant and think I'm an expert then Mother Nature comes along and king hits me from behind. scrubdog
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Wow.... thanx people. More than enough information there. I'll get some stuff in town today and go for a hike and collect some cuts tomorrow all going well and let you know how it goes. Not sure what specific method I'll use yet till I check what I already have. Awesome having all this advice available. Best of luck to all of you. scrubdog
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Okay I did some more research and it seems I could use an ordinary 25 watt CFL. Do I still use/need a heat pad? And the consensus seems to be that I run the light 24/0 at least until roots appear... which should take approx 2-3 weeks? Is that correct and any suggestions on best growing medium? I live in a remote rural location so I don't have access to stuff like rockwool and vermiculite without travelling to a city. I was thinking about just using pumice because I already have some. Do I need to make some sort of polythene tent around the whole setup to keep humidity high.... and if so... should the plastic enclose the light as well or just the cuttings? I'd be worried about an electrical short with the bulb in a high humidity tent setup? scrubdog
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i'm not really an indoor grower though I have done it before but you guys are the experts so I was hoping you might help me out with some advice please. My huge outdoor Mango thai female broke in half and may or may not make it.... and I may or may not get any seed from it... https://www.opengrow.com/topic/47271-scrubdogs-2013-outdoor-adventures/page__st__20 So... I'm thinking of taking some cuttings and cloning it. I've done this heaps of times in a hot house and in a big indoor setup but I have nothing set up these days and no hothouse. My question is this... how much light do I need to root some clones? Can I use an ordinary household light bulb or do I need a fluorescent at least... or even a proper HPS or Metal Halide??? Just to root a couple of clones?? I may not get around to it but I was thinking to use a heat pad and pumice or vermiculite or something like that? Is there a better and faster way? I have a lot of visitors who have no idea that I grow weed so I need some sort of really small, simple and stealthy setup? I know from past experience years ago that the fastest way to get rooted clones is in heated water with a bubbler in it... or at least in my limited experience.... but I have no way to hide the noise of a bubbler. Also I don't have access to a lot of high tech stuff like grow shops and grow cubes.... I just need simple and effective... Oh yeah it's winter here so I can't put cuttings outside and that's my biggest problem... I'll need artificial light source and I presume I run it non-stop till the cuttings root? Or do I give them some dark hours? How long does it usually take to grow roots? Thanx scrubdog
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I'm looking for a bit of advice here.... anybody... My huge Mango thai female broke in half and may or may not make it.... and I may or may not get any seed from it... So... I'm thinking of taking some cuttings and cloning it. I've done this heaps of times in a hot house and in a big indoor setup but I have nothing set up these days and no hothouse. My question is this... how much light do I need to root some clones? Can I use an ordinary household light bulb or do I need a fluorescent at least... or even a proper HPS or Metal Halide??? Just to root a couple of clones?? I may not get around to it but I was thinking to use a heat pad and pumice or vermiculite or something like that? Is there a better and faster way? I have a lot of visitors who have no idea that I grow weed so I need some sort of really small, simple and stealthy setup? scrubdog
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..... .... so I fixed it with a bit of bamboo and string (Robogro would be proud of me) Check out the snow.... more photos later... I'm just happy that I still have something growing. Talk about an epic season though. Lost two whole plantations to mould, .... then there was snow storms, biggest plants snapped in half, had a run in with a wild boar.... sheesh what an adventure this year.... Getting too old for this.... scrubdog
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Well to my surprise I still have plants.... Growing tropical sativas in the snow.... scrubdog The weight of snow snapped my biggest female Mango Thai plant... scrubdog
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Growing tropical sativas in the snow
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hmmmm that was more like a couple of roosters having a scratching competition. I need an aspirin and a lay down after reading that mess. So anyway, thanks everybody for the input. I sprayed with baking soda and that seems to have blitzed the mould and fungus. Wish I'd known that remedy at the start of the season. Not sure what is going on here. Go to any ordinary gardening site and there are heaps of sensible organic remedies but go to one of these cannabis sites and you get the weirdest stuff suggested but none of the simple and effective home remedies that actually work. scrubdog
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So that's just a fraction of the bud rot. It's not all the same. Sometimes it's wet grey mould, sometimes it's dry sooty mould, sometimes.... well you get the idea. The stem rot is worse. It takes out a whole branch or whole plant. I must've lost maybe 50 big plants (trees) to stem rot this season. First try in a new location, no time to scout out the perfect spot so just had to chance it and see what happened. Very poor location I now realise but at the time I wasn't in a position to track the sun over a few weeks like I normally do. I go for sun traps normally that are sheltered from wind because my plants all get top heavy. Unfortunately my sun trap turned out to be a frost trap and lack of air movement meant that all the fungus spores had a party at my expense. So I am aware of my mistakes in the choice of a location but I just wondered if there is organic remedies that others use or some other tricks to fight mould. I grow primarily landrace sativas which have previously been immune to mould but as I said... I've changed latitude and the temp difference has made all my pure sativas suddenly prone to mould attack. This is a new thing for me with sativas. I'm used to anything Afghani getting totally blitzed by mould but not my tropical sativas. I'm at 50 degrees south. I know that sounds an extreme latitude to grow outdoors but I had no problems at 40 degrees south growing the same strains. I look for a micro climate where a sheltered area is exposed to sun and frost protected by larger trees. It's always worked for me in the past but not at this latitude. It's a problem that must have been around for a long time for anybody growing outdoors in Europe so I just wondered if there was any tricks and ideas out there that I hadn't heard about. Seems to me that I'll just have to breed my own mould resistant strain for my particular environment. Just keep planting seed and breeding from anything that survives. scrubdog
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Sorry when I mentioned that I'd moved to a colder latitude I assumed that would indicate that I was growing outdoors. scrubdog
