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I hope I have learned a lesson here that the likely reason these took so long to root is because I left so much leaf on them. Probably took them awhile to figure out what to do with themselves! I'm also reading that my use of T5's may not be good for them. At least some of what I'm reading is that it is too strong for them- which doesn't really make a lot of sense to me, but I did disconnect all of my lamps except for two of them. So I just have the two 4' T5 lamps on these and hope that is fine? I have a two lamp 2' T5 I can use if there is concern the 4' T5's are too much.
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Feels like only yesterday, I couldn't grow a weed; But now, venturing into hashish-making to finally solve my needs. After all you have to go through as a beginner to get a decent harvest, learning that you have to move soon is about the worst scenario I can imagine. But that's exactly where I am now. I just posted a thread in Indoor talk about my first clones that I've already taken from my outdoor garden. So I will at least have those. But I am trying to plan for what to do with the several I have in my outdoor garden! It's mid-summer in the NE and I have several ladies in their 15th week of vegetative growth. It's probably safe to assume that we won't have to move until after September, which should put me close to harvest time. Assuming I can salvage something from them, the plan I am formulating is to immediately harvest the plants, trim and process them down into sacks, then transport them to our new place where I can freeze it all. Assuming the timing and logistics work out, I can then follow directions on YouTube, thanks to folks like Bubbleman's World, to process it down further. I made it sound almost easy. Having never done it myself before, I'm sure it won't be which is why I'm posting hoping the advice will keep me from the worst of the possible mistakes. So thanks for any suggestions in advance.
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I began an outdoor grow the beginning of April with seed from a successful Jackberry and Herebei grow years ago that I let go to seed primarily so I could learn how to grow them. I was new and having a lot of trouble. After 15 weeks of growth, I now have several females as tall as I am in my garden, including both the Blueberry and Green phenotype's associated with the Jackberry. I really don't know how to classify what I have growing other than a cross between the two genotype's, Jackberry and Herebei- or what the result will be, but I am very happy that they have done so well from seeds years old. We've decided to move though, so now I am putting together a plan to save what I can. I'm hoping that I will have time for my garden to mature enough to harvest something useful from it and I've also taken several cuttings and was able to use my Ez-Clone for the first time, as you see in the pic. Beginning with the left-rear corner, there are 4 rooted clones in a row. These were taken from the mother (in the 2nd image) 11 days ago. Notice how dark the stems and stalks are on them. It's actually a very dark purple that appears almost black in the pictures. In each of the opposite corners of the cloner, I put 2 clones taken from my next 3 strongest growers. All are of the "Green" phenotype, unlike the previous Blueberry one. By far, the strongest mother from which the remaining clones were taken, was one that saw 9" of growth in as many days! (remember, these seeds are at least 3 or 4 years old- incredible imho). All of the clones in the cloner have rooted- but all of them took longer than I expected them to. It took them 8-9 days to show roots. Even today, after 11 days, I have one or two that are still showing only a few roots starting. Having never cloned before, I intend to leave them in the cloner as you see them here until I see a nest of roots 2-3" long before I transplant them into 1 gallon coco-perlite bags. Because we are moving, I will keep them in those 1 gallon bags in this tent under T5's until I can get something setup at their home. Sucks... But no other way around it I do have a question about how to start feeding the clones. I am using GH Flora Series products. Do I treat these as newbies, or hit them with full veg nutes? If I set them outside to finish (in DC area), will they have enough time? Or should I finish indoors? If so, how long should I let them veg before switching them over to 12/12? I have a large grow tent I can finish them in if needed. It's great to finally have options to where this kind of unexpected thing stops you in your tracks! I have other questions about my garden and what I plan to do with it in another thread... Thanks for all of the support here!
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I was able to identify the sex of all of my plants by week 8 of grow except for 3 that have refused to show me what they are into week 12. Because I don't need them, I chopped all but the purple phenotype in this picture (the best I can do with my Iphone). Some have suggested that it is a male and I can understand why I think because some of my females did begin this way too before developing the two pistils later that convinced me. But these never have. You can't really see it well, but inside of looking like pollen sac's, they have these little "crab claw" like growths on each side that are often dark brown or orange. On my other females, these eventually developed into other branches, but I knew by then they were females. These just seem to have stalled, so I have given this one a chance at life. I have a VERY strong female that is equally as dark though, so i'll be getting some cutting from her for my Ez-Clone. If you had your choice on how to fill a 32 cell Ez-Clone with female Jackberry/Herebei clones, one (maybe two) with the purple phenotype and several of the green, how would you do it? 18 purple & 18 green clones (from my strongest)?
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RAS-T, thanks for the wisdom man! I'll be taking cuttings from both the purple and the green phenotypes real soon!
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Still interested to hear what kind of yield I can expect. The original grow years ago was a "stealth" kind of thing, plus I let 'em go to seed, but I planted and expect to harvest about the same time and method where I transplanted seedlings two or three weeks old outside in early April and harvested in October. But because of conditions above, I got roughly two to three ounces of seeded bud out of three plants I harvested. I enjoyed the hell out of it too. If I remember right I put about 9 ounces into dry and cure and ended up with over 6 ounces of seedy, but very smoke-able flower. I'm hoping to see 4 to 6 from each of these ladies but really have no idea because it's my first grow with only females and doing it with commitment.
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I also need to give a shoutout to @sannie. I came by these seeds from a grow when I first joined this group about 3, maybe even 4, years ago. I was trying to get seed to practice with and succeeded by crossing the jackberry and herebei. But life entered the picture and those seeds have been in a medicine bottle ever since. When I sowed them for this grow, I didn't expect any of them to be viable after so long. I double seeded them into a 72 cell starter in late March. All of them popped! I left them grow that way until the first week of April and then selected 24 of them and planted in the garden. A week or two later, we had a frost; then cool spring weather followed by lots of rain and now Virginia summer days and afternoon thunderstorms. Yet all survived with the exception of one or two of the double seedlings dying off. In the end, I still ended up with 18 females and 3 unknowns! I know I double seeded them, but that's still incredible to me and a testament to Sannie's genetics. Again, thanks to all for helping me through the worst of it to find that while I SUCK at growing indoors; Outdoors seems to suit me pretty well!
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I appreciate the comments that this is a female. I really want it to be! But with my lack of experience, i'm just going to have to wait until it slaps me in the face I guess- but I hope that still gives me time to remove it before it spoils my crop. I'm using a jewelers lens and checking two to three times every day- for the last 6 weeks.
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This would make me very happy!
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Good point! We do have an LED flood light that gets left on at night sometimes, although it is not pointed at the garden. I actually moved it recently just in case. It's probably 300 feet or so from the light to the plants and any light they get from it is weak and indirect with a shed in its path too. The only other light sources are from a street light 1/8 mile away, maybe an occasional headlight and the moon. This plant IS on the end of the garden nearest the lamp, but it is the only one like this. All my other's showing this trait are on the other end of the garden and further from the light- so I'm not sure if that is the culprit but it is the only explanation available other than the genetics of the plant itself... dunno- but HAPPY FOR IT!
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Posting another pic of one of my plants that has yet to show itself- while all the others began showing at week 6 or 7 of veg. I'm heading into week 12 now and have three like this. I don't know if the pic helps and I believe i have time before it's a threat to my garden but I'm reluctant to cull it too soon. The color is a standout!
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I've been contacted by a group looking for acreage to grow on. I assume they want to grow Hemp, but they are a DC outfit and I am waiting for details from them now. They could be anticipating future developments here in Virginia... I have up several acres available but no idea what to expect or how to avoid being taken advantage of. Is anyone else doing this and, if so, what terms should I expect?
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The images below are of a Jackberry cross with Herebei seeding from a grow of those strains SEVERAL YEARS AGO! I wanted some seed to practice with as I learned and, despite those seeds sitting in a medicine bottle for at least 3 years- you can see they are still very viable and STRONG! Thank you SANNIE! I double-seeded a 72-cell starter kit in late March and had 100% germination. I selected 24 from those and set out in my garden the beginning of April. Despite a freeze and very wet weather, and having to cull the males, I have 20 females in the garden now with these pictures taken at 11 weeks of vegetative growth. Several are well over 40" tall with several showing very strong BLUEBERRY phenotype that are beautiful and smell delicious! One of the images below I believe to be a male, but giving it some time because it began growing dark PURPLE and just continued that way, while the others (females) took longer to develop that way. If it's a male, is there any reason for keeping it to save the genetics? Or should I just settle for the females I have? If it's worth keeping, what should I do? Never anticipated this situation, but the damn thing is captivating to me with its color! While it isn't nearly as pretty as the two Blueberry females pictured with it, look at that color man! As I recall, I got roughly 2 ounces of dried flower from the grow that produced the seeds for this grow and the plants only reached about 3' high. These are already taller at 11 weeks than those! Any ideas what kind of yield I can expect from these that I don't expect to harvest until October or November (7 to 8 months of total growth)??? Thanks to everyone for helping me get this far. Outdoor growing seems to work much better for me than trying indoor grows- but I'll be taking clones of these soon and giving cloning a first attempt with my Ez-Cloner! Any recommendations on when would be the best time to take cuttings from these young ladies that are just 11 weeks? Peace!
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Folks, I'm sorry for taking so long to respond to some of the responses- but I have been listening and making improvements since making this thread. Lots of changes, but believe to have it all worked out now. I have 4 "Cherry Wine" females in the big tent that have already started to bud up nicely and a few others I started from seed that will go out to my garden to replace the ones i've lost for various reasons (rabbits & horses included). Running my 1000w lamp at 50% and the temp stays in the 70's unless i'm in the room long. The exhaust fan doesn't need to come on... Even with the T5's running. Sweet!