Sannie Meets Motarebel

[sannie 3,339]

I was searching a new strain to work with,and most say that this forum,eskobar,and motarabel make my search a lot easyer thx for that.

 

I swopped some jack herrer seeds against one off motarabels new strains.

This man is one genereus person,he gave me loats off seeds.

 

To make it easy lets call the strain for the meanwhile after the topicname S.M.M.

S.M.M parents are;blue kronic/killa queen,nycd.

 

I placed 50 S.M.M seeds this morning.

The idee is to seak for the best female off the 50 seeds,all the females are going to grow the komplete ciclus,to taste the buds and then make the choice witch is the nicest plant.

 

Today was the day

The birth off my 50 new little seedlings

 

I filled the pots with soil and sramis and mycorrhiza molds,they standing for a week now,to help the soil to come alive

 

Tomorrow the little seedlings are going to there new home.

Mota great germ percentage

 

And off we are

 

The little ones can grow for 2 weeks in this tunnel wich is controled with moisture.

I grow the seedlings under 4 times 58 watt fluo tubes to keep them as short as possible,to take cuttings from the plants before they going on 12/12.

When the plants are to tall when the plants are going to flower,there is a big possibility that they are going to grow to big for the grow room(sativa influence).

 

 

 

The seedling having the time off there live,the ultrasoon moister maker holds the temperture on 26 C,when it is not used it is soon over the 30C.

 

They have to stay under fluo for another week,and then they can go to there bigger home

I cant wait

 

The seedlings are a couple off days under 600 watt HPS,50cm from the plants.

Temperature is 26-28 and 70-80% moisture.

 

The idee is to keep the plants as short as possible because off the sativa inluences.

 

 

Theres quite some diferences in the phenos

Fresh update;

 

48 seedlings on 2m2

Left side and right side

 

Now its wating for the internodes to be long enough to make cuttings,after this the klok goes on 12/12.

 

Day 25 after birth off the S.M.M seedlings.

This plants are quite potent growers,and they love the klimate that i give them.

 

But there is something weird going on

The lamps are on 18/6 and the plants are in there veg stage.

Pre-flowering i saw already quite a lot off times,but never such big balls as there are hanging now.

Any-one is femiliar with such big balls in pre-flowering stage???

 

Sannie had a lot off luck.

Because off the pre-flowering i was able to select the males and the females.

The idee was to repot in flowering when the males and females shown tehre-selfs,but that is no prob now.

The plants are now repotted on 11 liter bukkets.

 

There were 11 males,and 36 woman.

25 most beatifull ladys are standing now in there definate bukkets.

 

There was 1 male that is so beautifull that i kept him.

Left pic is the male,right pic is one off the nice females.

 

From all the plants i take 2 cuttings and placed them appart untill i know wich female is the best choice to work with

 

 

 

I could not resist to put a couple off pics off the different pheno-types.

 

I am glad to have some difference in the plants,otherwise i wouldnt have to select.

 

Here some closer pics from 3 plants that has the most difference.

 

Mota thx for this beuatifull plants

 

 

This selection is a dream so far.

 

Great when things come together;.

 

Lets show some pics off the remaining 21 females wich are selected for the complete ciclus;

Leftside;

 

Rightside;

 

Plants are standing now for 6 days under 12/12 and already beginning to make the first hairs

 

They are already smelling like fruity blue berry.

Every time its great to sea those seedplants,and thx to grow such beatifull plants.

 

greetz sannie

 

Fresh update/fresh flowers

 

Left-side;

 

Right-side

 

Its smelling like tasty fruits already.

 

 

 

19 days into flowering

 

Temperatures are outside +30 C,on the top off the fans arond the 32-34C.

Seedplants can handle more temp-stresses.

Buds are developping nice.

 

Left and right side off the grow-room;

 

Some nice developping buds

 

Mother-selection is going great.

 

 

Fresh update

 

Temps were quite high(34 Celsius) the last weeks.but the seedlings doesnt seem to bother them very much.

Some early bud-shots;

 

The buds are quite tall,but doesnt hold them to build them full with smelly buds

 

Overview off the grow-room

 

 

 

 

Update 4.5 week flowering

Plants are building and building........

 

 

There are a couple off plants that are showing there blue colors

 

 

Further no complanes

 

 

5.5 week flowering

 

I hope mota will have some better feelings when he see his doughters growing like hell.

 

The temps are better to handle the last week,27C when lights on an 21 when lights out.Yhey are hanging on 50cm from the top off the buds.

I am only using organuc nutes,and testing now a pk booster wich will work in benefit with the soil,without the chance off burning the roots.Ph is 6,o.

 

Some bud porn

IndicaS.m.M

NR 46

The hybride S.m.M

The blue S.m.M

They still going strong

 

 

I could not resist to place a couple off pics.

 

Overvieuw

 

 

 

 

A couple off plants that are not yet been seen.

 

 

Sannie has a lot off fun

 

Week 6.5 flowering

 

Still going strong

 

 

 

 

nr 46

The blue pheno and the sativa pheno;

 

 

 

 

Wekely update(7.5 weeks flowering)

 

2 plants allready hanging

 

Let me introduce you: Miss_blue:(adopted by Miss_j)

 

 

 

Nr 46

Still my persenol favorite

 

Let me introduce:pungent-berrie,heavy indica with a pungent sweet smell.

(selected for esko)

 

 

mother selection is going great

 

greetz sannie

 

There is no stopping now

The "blue"one hanging to dry

 

 

The sativa pheno that has to go for some time

 

 

 

 

Some plants that are still building;

 

 

Nr46;

 

The blue pheno is smokeble

7&.5weeks finish

Smell is powerfull berrie

Hard dense buds

Medium yield

 

 

 

 

 

With this plant i am going to cross with jack to upgrate the yield,and find some new species

 

 

 

9 weeks flowering

Time to chopp nr 46

She is THE lady.she was from the beginning the nicest growing plant,with the typical blue smell in here.

After some weeks off flowering the smell turned more pungent sour,during the latest stadia off flowering the plant has a nice kombi off both worlds.Something like grape-berry

 

The ONE

 

I like the sound off a sicor

 

 

She has a red/blue/pink colour shine couvered over the flowers.

All that work for only one plant

 

greetz sannie

 

This selection found place in 2006 and we used the blue pheno to make jackberry and we used nr 46 (the one) to make Killing Fields.

On this moment this 2 strains proved themselfs and are already in prgres off selection and aeven we are making Jackberry f2 on the moment.

 

Thx for watching

 

greetz sannie

[Guest white tooth]

Very nice, those different pheno's

heel mooi die verschillende feno's

 

And very nice to see the origin of these mythical strains. I heard something about the one seeds producing bananas, are you still working on that?

[sannie 3,339]

There were a couple off plants wich showed nanners,these plants went to the trash container.

The One F2 wich i made (smm male) showed nanners and thats the reason why there is no F2 for sale.

It was here own brother wich trickert the nanners

 

The crosses Killing Fields and jackberry are showing just a now and then a nanner but its onlt little.With the new F2 in the make this will be even more less the case.I found a suitable stud for the one wich will match perfectly for keeping all those nice flavours.This Blue Kronic is the real deal Seeds are in the make but it will take months before i can tell you guy's anything more about this cross

So keep tuned

 

greetz sannie

[Guest hub]

how did i miss THIS thread...??

 

wow!

 

just.....WOW!!

 

sannie and the mota militia.

 

 

match made in heaven

 

 

keep up the impeccable (great) work, sannie and crew!!!

 

excellent thread and presentation.

what a nice job!

[Guest Crabby]

An unbelievably detailed and interesting thread. Thank you for sharing that, sannie! You're not only a breeder, sannie; you're an artist too.

[Whazzup 529]

But there is something weird going on blink.gif

The lamps are on 18/6 and the plants are in there veg stage.

Pre-flowering i saw already quite a lot off times,but never such big balls as there are hanging now.

Any-one is femiliar with such big balls in pre-flowering stage???

I had the same problem when I was 9 years old

[Guest Gymshoes]

I'm glad I got a few "The One" beans.

Anybody open to trades? JK...

[Guest still_buzz'n]

OMG! Awesome work you guys! Damn I'm glad I finally found this site!

[Guest Gymshoes]

Sannie, or anybody else, is there a smoke report on The One/AKA #46 anywhere?

 

I sure would like to know more about this renegade strain, LOL.

[Guest white tooth]

Here is ASGrows smoke report in Dutch. I’d translate it for you, but he can do that much better himself and you can use google or bablefish or whatever. ASGrow is great at describing his adventures.

 

 

Hallo iedereen,

 

Na een interessante en gezellige ontmoeting met een langharige hippie met (zeer)groene vingers, waren we ineens trotse eigenaren van zakje groen goud. Of beter gezegd nog groen/paars goud was het. Na de enerverende verslagen en verlekkerende foto's wilden we hier in Eindhoven ook graag "the one" uitzetten. Maar iedereen is het verhaal inmiddels wel bekend en helaas zagen we onze dromen verdrongen door de plotsklaps verschijnende bananen. Volgens mij zijn wij niet de enige geweest die verlekkerd boven de foto's hebben gehangen, dus je kunt je wel voorstellen hoe we ons voelden met dit zakje groen/paars goud in ons trotse bezit.

 

 

Natuurlijk is het grootste gedeelte in de kluis gegaan, voor speciale gelegenheden, en om nog te kunnen genieten van dit lange vrije weekend hebben we klein sampletje genomen. Lopend door Woensel west, in het meest pittoreske stukje van Eindhoven, dwalen de gedachten vlug af bij het roken van een MaryJane, maar deze bijzondere rookwaar trekt onze aandacht toch vlug weer terug naar de indringende werkelijkheid van het heden.

 

 

Het verhaal van die hippie, is helaas maar vaag blijven hangen(volgende keer aantekeningen maken) maar bij het roken van deze Ene komt het allemaal langzaam terug. De voorstelling van de ideale combinatie van gewenste elementen in deze Ene komt daadwerkelijk zo naar boven en zoals te verwachten viel, kwamen alle elementen vol tot hun recht . De aparte smaak, naast de al bekende opmerkelijke opslag van de wiet, komen samen in de bijzondere high die je ervaart bij het roken. En als klapper op de vuurpijl behoud je ook nog eens een lekkere nasmaak die de herinnering van de Ene, zekers, voortaan met hoofdletters in mijn geheugen heeft gebrandmerkt. Dit zullen we nooit vergeten en helaas ook niet vlug weer tegenkomen.

 

 

Ik ben niet die ervaren roker, die smaken, geuren en high, weet te koppelen aan de achterliggende soorten. Zo blijkt wel weer eens, het gaat niet om het aantal jaren ervaring, maar om de kwaliteit van de ervaringen. Maar ik weet wel wanneer iets bijzonder is, en dit was zoiets bijzonders. En wie weet, ooit…, gaan we ze zelf ook zetten.

 

 

Groeten uit Eindhoven,

 

AS Grow

 

[Guest hillbilly]

Those are the best pics I have ever seen and the grow so well managed, congrats.

and I hope I can get those genetics here...damn I mean....I will be dreaming tonight from

all those bud pics....

I want...I need....

dank....sannie..

may the marriage be a long one.

[Guest _FOE20_]

wow sannie...these hybrids are stunning....

the NR 46 and "the One" and MissBlue all are fantastic looking plnats not to mention form and the info you posted describes them very well..Can I ask whats the make up of the NR 46?..

Great show bro and hope to wander thru here more often..be well

FOE20

[ghost 0]

a little late to post this but blueberry sometimes shows nanners or balls in early veg under 18/6. ak-47 will do this too.

 

its one way of separating the early males from your crop, not all will show. again at around 10 weeks from germ the plants will sex again showing preflower. i have worked with ak and bb for years. i have seen 1 single ball appear, cut it off and flowered out the female with no other signs.

[Southflorida 6]

Is it possible for someone to fix the links to the wonderful pics of this plant in the first thread?

 

Something must have happened when the thread was copied from the Dutch Forum, and I would

love to see them all.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

SouthFlorida

[Bazz F 79]

I tried to post the pic's Sannie uploaded, but i got an error that there were too many images for the post. I got to 'nr 46, still my favorite pheno '

 

If anyone could copy/paste the rest from there on, we could make this beautiful topic complete

 

BF

 

edit: I did it in three parts, hope nobody mind (especially you Sannie, since it's your thread)

 

Right-side

 

Its smelling like tasty fruits already.

 

 

 

19 days into flowering

 

Temperatures are outside +30 C,on the top off the fans arond the 32-34C.

Seedplants can handle more temp-stresses.

Buds are developping nice.

 

Left and right side off the grow-room;

 

Some nice developping buds

 

Mother-selection is going great.

 

 

Fresh update

 

Temps were quite high(34 Celsius) the last weeks.but the seedlings doesnt seem to bother them very much.

Some early bud-shots;

 

The buds are quite tall,but doesnt hold them to build them full with smelly buds

 

Overview off the grow-room

 

 

 

 

Update 4.5 week flowering

Plants are building and building........

 

 

There are a couple off plants that are showing there blue colors

 

 

Further no complanes

 

 

5.5 week flowering

 

I hope mota will have some better feelings when he see his doughters growing like hell.

 

The temps are better to handle the last week,27C when lights on an 21 when lights out.Yhey are hanging on 50cm from the top off the buds.

I am only using organuc nutes,and testing now a pk booster wich will work in benefit with the soil,without the chance off burning the roots.Ph is 6,o.

 

Some bud porn

IndicaS.m.M

NR 46

The hybride S.m.M

The blue S.m.M

They still going strong

 

 

I could not resist to place a couple off pics.

 

Overvieuw

 

 

 

 

A couple off plants that are not yet been seen.

 

 

Sannie has a lot off fun

 

Week 6.5 flowering

 

Still going strong

 

 

 

 

nr 46

The blue pheno and the sativa pheno;

 

 

 

 

Wekely update(7.5 weeks flowering)

 

2 plants allready hanging

 

Let me introduce you: Miss_blue:(adopted by Miss_j)

 

 

 

Nr 46

Still my persenol favorite

[Bazz F 79]

Let me introduce:pungent-berrie,heavy indica with a pungent sweet smell.

(selected for esko)

 

 

 

 

mother selection is going great

 

greetz sannie

 

There is no stopping now

The "blue"one hanging to dry

 

 

The sativa pheno that has to go for some time

 

 

 

 

Some plants that are still building;

 

 

Nr46;

 

The blue pheno is smokeble

7&.5weeks finish

Smell is powerfull berrie

Hard dense buds

Medium yield

 

 

 

 

 

With this plant i am going to cross with jack to upgrate the yield,and find some new species

 

 

 

9 weeks flowering

Time to chopp nr 46

She is THE lady.she was from the beginning the nicest growing plant,with the typical blue smell in here.

After some weeks off flowering the smell turned more pungent sour,during the latest stadia off flowering the plant has a nice kombi off both worlds.Something like grape-berry

 

The ONE

 

I like the sound off a sicor

 

 

She has a red/blue/pink colour shine couvered over the flowers.

All that work for only one plant

 

greetz sannie

 

This selection found place in 2006 and we used the blue pheno to make jackberry and we used nr 46 (the one) to make Killing Fields.

On this moment this 2 strains proved themselfs and are already in prgres off selection and aeven we are making Jackberry f2 on the moment.

 

Thx for watching

 

greetz sannie

 

 

So just to be clear, i just did the copy paste thing. All credits goes to Sannie

[Southflorida 6]

Thanks Bazz F for taking the time for posting those pics. It was a shame that

all those links were not working, and you really did an awesome job by posting

them up in the order that Sannie put them up in the Dutch wietforum.

 

...now I'm gonna try to pick up my jaw off the ground

[UrbanOasis 0]

Sannie your grows are a real pleasure to read over. I like how dedicated you are in the selection process and the coverage. I read about Motarebel long ago and it use to fascinate me how many crosses he would put out. I liked what he stood for and some of the plants he was working with. I ran some of his stock still have some of it in my collection. Gbolt was a great plant I had a keeper I nicknamed Silverback because it was frosted and structurally I loved it. Sadly it mutated I havent seen anything like it before but it no longer yeilded the same it didnt exactly loose vigour the bud structure just dissapeared. At the time I was in a long war with the borg (mites). Very sad to loose that plant.

 

The bits of info you have on the Blue Kronic are nice its tempting me to run the Selene. Im going to do a seperate post hoping for a it of feedback. Really great work your Making of the Killing Fields in later stages is also a really good read. Thanks for all the hard work makes it much more enjoyable dropping strains.

 

Urban Oasis

[C.P. 0]

Can really see the structure of the Killing Fields nr 9 Chinese Pheno in the bud structure of The One. Beautiful plant The One and I makes me even more excited for my seeds. I didn't realize that Killing Fields and Jackberry were related. Thank you for the great seeds Sannie!

 

Happy Growing

[santero 9,399]

this thread is truly a gem, but i am a little confused ...

 

S.M.M parents are;blueberyy sativa/killa queen,nycd ...

 

With this plant i am going to cross with jack to upgrate the yield,and find some new species ...

 

we use the blue pheno to make jackberry ...

 

 

does that mean "sannie meets mota" is the mother of jackberry

and not the blueberry indica like it says in the shop's description?

 

 

i mean: there is quite a difference between blueberry indica and

blueberry sativa x killian (which is: killa queen x NYC Diesel), no?

 

 

i am happy with the jackberry ... just curious about the parentage.

[sannie 3,339]

This is why this thread is made

 

from this smm selection we selected 2 mothers, one is The One and the other is blueberry indic a, we gave the name bbi because she is blueberry all the way and fast flowering indica.

 

The One we use to make killing fields and sugar punch.

The bbi we used to make jackberry and new blue diesel.

 

If there is any confusion with the original it was not the intention, this plant has it all and does give offspring with the needed treats.

 

greetz sannie

[drip-n-wet 681]

Sannie

 

Is the bbi the one you used in the smackberry

[santero 9,399]

thank you a lot, sannie for clearing this up for me ... so, it is save to say:

 

jackberry F1 = [blueberry sativa x (killa queen x nyc diesel)] x sannie's jack ?

 

 

 

(which filial generation was the sannie's jack? ... sorry, if i am bugging too much ).

[joejusttyped 2]

Always wondered what the BBI was, Sannie. Thanks for the clarification for us strain nerds!

[sannie 3,339]

thank you a lot, sannie for clearing this up for me ... so, it is save to say:

 

jackberry F1 = [blueberry sativa x (killa queen x nyc diesel)] x sannie's jack ?

 

 

 

(which filial generation was the sannie's jack? ... sorry, if i am bugging too much ).

 

This is totally right

The Sannie's Jack was the F4 version if I do remember correct

 

Jackberry is a very nice strain and stable enough to finish all the plants within 8 max 9 weeks, this is rare with jack as a parrent.

 

greetz sannie