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Grafting my motherplants

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wup FOH,

GLAD IT WORKED ,but for me i would just get more confused . less plants to start with will make my life simple enuff .

 

don't stop now dude youhave to see how things go with cuts and when the plant get's flowered too imho. thx.f for sharing btw. :j

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That's awesome, especially for growers with tight spaces. One plant / two strains. Crazy!

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Amazing!!! Im interested in seeing how smell, flavor, yield, bud formation and coloration would be effected if at all. Very interseting keep it coming. Have fun and be safe. -BEEZY-

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Well done FOTH!

 

I really enjoy your threads but this one promises to be even more interesting.

 

Will be lurkin'around!

 

Peace out & take care.

 

Bnj

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:j Man FOTH this opens a lot of possibities, now thinking about having 3 + strains on one tiny mother plant under 50 W fluoro....Just awesome!
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That's cool man, I never did it like that...I always did like apple trees.

 

Thanks for putting that up!

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nice man, been playing with grafting myself lately, havent tried an approach graft but i seen people do it with watermelons and such to get stronger root systems on strains that wouldnt normally do well in their area.. im on a wii so cant post pics this second but the method ive been successful with is cutting a v into a branch on the base plant (rootstock) woodier ones work better for me, and sharpen a cut from the other plant (scion) so they fit together nice. clothespin it, cover with bag, keep bag humid by spraying through a little slit i cut in the bag (so it can brathe a little). looking at your pictures it seems your method (which i have to try now) has easier success but not as solid of a graft. right now im working on getting a mother with 3 moondawg phenos, chem d, and otm. right now its 1 md plant with a chem branch. im not a seed maker but i think grafting would make it easier for the hobby breeder to make multiple crosses with 1 dad and not have to worry about making a mess pollinating individual branches. lol thinking out loud, thanks for the post

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Thanks for all the reactions.

I don't expect any problems taking clones off a grafted plant.

I did it before, SCD, three differnt strains on top of another motherplant.

Long time ago, I did not take any pictures then, so I have no proof.

 

Yes, Joker tight spaces, and in some countries growing only a few plants is more or less allowed.

Selecting a base plant with a big root system can also give an advantage.

Here are some pictures of a failed attempt I did last year:

 

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I guess that's what you mean by " like apple trees", Clepter.

Did you try cannabis?

 

I tried it that way, haksackumz, it also works and indeed gives a nice smooth joint.

My graft is still fresh, but I expect it to grow together some more and form a nice thick lump.

Time will tell.

I think the "handshake" methode works better for me, because it puts less stress to the scion.

And you can use bigger scions, so you can make cuts of the grafted plant much sooner.

 

I don't know about the smell, flavor, yield, bud formation and coloration untill I flower them.

I might some day, but that's not my goal now, mbeezy.

 

So give it a try, you all, it can be done.

Bye.

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I guess that's what you mean by " like apple trees", Clepter.

Did you try cannabis?

 

 

Yes, even grafted hops to cannabis and vs versa.

 

What I meant when I said (like apple trees) was - I cut the branch of totally, and glue it onto the other plant.

 

What YOU'RE doing is a modified form of "layering"...which is often used to replicate certain

types of plants. I've never thought about combining layering and grafting (like you did).

 

 

Here is Humulus lupis 'Willamette" grafted onto the rootball of Ebenezer Sploodge. I got about a 30' vine

last summer, but it didn't make buds (yes, the hops is female). I did it the same way (with glue)...

I am going to try it with your method THIS year:

 

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Great info Clepter.

 

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I found out about this technique in Bill Drake's Cultivator's Handbook of Marijuana (1970).

On page 171 he describes and illustrates both methodes:

the " wedge graft" and the " passover graft".

He also describes grafting cannabis on a hop rootstock.

 

I used two different pheno's of the same cross to make my graft.

KFxTB #6 is now on top of #4.

I could have cut them loose on the other side to make it a #4 on top of #6.

But the #4 is more dear to me, so I decided it keep the most of that one.

 

There are a few more branches on the host plant that could be used for grafting, so I will try to add some more soon.

To make a true "Bride of Frankenstein".

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The potential for that "Bride of Frankenstein" comment is MORE than interesting - the idea of all your favorites growing at once on the same plant kicks ass! (With both feet at the same time and without falling down.)

 

Thanks for this topic - you couldn't have caught my stoned attention at a better moment for this!

 

God Bless my poor plants from here on in.

 

-subterra

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im using a glue as well called plant seal. the first one worked without it seeing if this speeds it up a little (still new to grafting)

 

still on the wii so i cant give you a link but go on youtube and search midnight gardener grafting cannabis, its one of the urban grwer videos.. he flowered one out with 6 strains.

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Thanks for that link man...I hadn't seen that book before!

 

The big test will be to see if hops (perennial) comes back this year on cannabis (an annual) rootstock. I don't think it will, but who knows?

 

This was the layering I was talking about...basically, it's exactly what you did, but the plants grow into each-other instead of rooting:

 

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Your post gave me a really good idea:

 

Say I want another mother of a certain plant...

 

I have a bunch of males with really good roots (I am going to kill them anyway)...couldn't I just slice off a clone of the female plant I want to "replace" as a mother, and then graft it onto the male, and then be 4-5 weeks ahead in progression after a few days of healing?

 

Couldn't I just skip the whole cloning process all together? Would this work? Instead of cutting, and dipping, and putting the clone in rockwool, etc, just graft it onto already

growing male rootstock?!

 

 

Fuck, I am going to try this as soon as I wake up.

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Okay, Clepter and subterra, how are your experiments doing?

I also worked with a sealer in the past, but thanks for the tip, haksackumz.

I'll pick some up in the garden shop.

 

This is a picture of the graft today:

 

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Looks like the stems are further growing together.

 

Two days ago I made a new one:

 

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I joined them a place where I would cut off a clone.

Again I picked two sisters of the same cross.

Somango Haze X Killing Fields #1 and #2.

I will know which is the better pheno in about two months.

If the grafting is a succes, I will only have to keep one back-up plant alive instead of two.

 

So next friday is the big day, the band-aid goes off!

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too cool :verrygood

 

I wanted to try to do a cleft graft

 

a good link in english about grafting

 

http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/...ure/dg0532.html

 

but after seeing and reading what you did a whip graft maybe the way to go

 

thanks for sharing the info and what you are with us

 

all the best in your grows and be safe

 

Dequelo

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Thanks for stopping by, saxo and AMA.

 

Just give it a try, dequelo.

Four days ago I joined these two.:

 

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Today I decided that #1 is going to be the rootstock.

So I clipped the branch of #1 above the graft spot.

 

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Going to sepatate them next friday.

Bye.

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Hi there Fool! I have a question about the grafting of plants...

 

Let say I have a nice early flowering plant in the outdoors. Next to that plant I have a really nice sativa which will flower much later. Let's say I want to graft a branch of the sativa on the already flowering plant. Will the sativa branch then also start to flower once it's on the flowering plant?

 

Cheers!

 

Chaz

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nothing changes about the branch when it's grafted. i'd assume each branch would keep it's own photosensitivity. i'm NOT talking from experience on this one, but id imagine the sativa and indica would keep their same flower schedule, grafted or not. the roots are whats different about the plant once it's grafted, so i think it'd be better to look for plants with certain mold or drought resistances for a rootstock than an early finish.. just my thoughts. i was thinking just the opposite. could i get a giant sativa root system with an early finishing indica on it, so i don't gotta water quite as much..

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Interesting question, Chaz.

I would try to make the graft before the plants go into the flowering stage.

 

In theory I would agree with you, haksackumz,

But I also think plant hormones could play a role in this.

Could the hormones formed in the early flowering branches not also have an effect on the other strain(s) on the grafted plant?

 

So to both of you: Give it a try, so we will find out.

The info I found on grafting cannabis is old and very basic.

We need to sort things out.

Bye.

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