BeeKaa 33 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Hi y'all! The forum is yet a little empty.. so i thought let's make some educational reading... Making cuttings is really handy when you have your own little cabinet for them and for theyre mothers. It will save you lots of cash on seeds or cuttings, and will save lots of time by cutting down the vegging time in the flowering cabinet. in other words: making your own cuttings is nearly essential to keep your own little green wave rollin' that's why I think thhis little tutorial will be appreciated :innocent ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First of all i wanted you to know that the cutting medium I used are pit-pots (distributed by shop.wietforum.nl and by sanniesshop.nl deliverd with seeds) these little 100% organic (spoungy) cubes have a perfect 50/50 water/air structure ideal for cuttings and seeds (and these little things get back in shape after you squeeze them) 1. Mixing the water First of all you have to mix your water with some root stimulator (and/or sannies bacto) 2. Adjusting the PH Very important on small media! 3. Select a Healthy mum It is really important tha mother is healthy and free of pests and diseases: you don't wan't your cuttings to have a bad start!! they are really delicate little things who would die in a day! (My whole bublicious generation had mildew.. because of my unawareness) 4. plan strategically where you are gonna cut, leaving enough shoots to recover If you want to keep your mother, you have to leave some to grow back try to paint a picture how she would be couple of weeks after your cuttingsession 5. This is where no time can be wasted After you cut the cuttings, you have to pu it in a small glass of some of the rootingsolutiuon you made. this prevents the formation of a bubble in the stern and blocking the waterflow of the little babie. this also prevents whilting when you take your time taking cuttings 6. Applying the rooting powder and cutting in an 45 degrees angle Dip the moist stern of the cutting 1-3 cm in the rooting powder and "tic" the overdue off the stern (is better to have less on it than too much) Cut the stern in a 45 degrees angle to create the a big rooting zone (they will only come at the outer stern layer) Important: you cut after the dipping in the rooting powder because no rooting powder is needed at the cut-side. (on the photos i made the cut too early, but i mad another cut to clear the end of powder ) The effect of cuttingpowder is it eats away the hard layer of the stenr so the layer under it has room/air to make roots. Important: the final cut has to be done with a razorsharp knife, or else you would bruise the cutting.. 7. Place them loosely in the pit-pots The pre-made holes are a bit big so i filled them up with some pit-pot crumbs and cutting soil 8. Trim 1/3 of the fan-leaves, and place them stable in a humid environment Fanleaves evaporate water, to maintain a stable waterlevel in the cutting these need to be trimmed down a bit. (about 1/3 should do it) And after that place them in a humid anvironment, and be sure they don't tip-over I used a little propagator filled with a little water absorbing material (seramis) and I kept it moist, not wet! this helps to keep the humidity stable @ 75-80% RH and for the fastest result keep the soil temp between 20 and 24 degrees celcius.. 9. Take good care of your cutting mother It is really a Shock to her to loose half her leaves and branches. take good care of her and slow down on the nutes for a while.. then in time she will be ready to give birth to the new generation 10. Keep a close eyen on them for 7-14 days For best results you should keep soil temperature at 20-24 degrees celcius for the cuttings, colder would slow the rooting down dramatically and hotter can cause rot! When applied a good soil temperature your cuttings would root from 7 to 14 days.. I hope this helps a lot of people, It has been made with pleasure gr BK 10 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackone 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Those pit pots look great! I've been using jiffys and perlite/soil mixture with an ok success rate but would love to try those out. I find that the above all maintaining a good bottom temperature is important - without it the cuttings take a long time to root (3 weeks+) and are half dead when they finally do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeKaa 33 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 thanx blackone.. you definately are right!! tou forgot to type it I edited it, so it wil be complete now... thanks again! gr BK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Military 7 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 very nice very nice For the soil grower hehe Ima going have to stick with my bubbler Works great an have yet to get a plant that doesnt root Nice TUT for sure though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeKaa 33 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 bubbler works good!! i know but this method is most used over here.. (only then with cutting blocks) gr BK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jahroide 1 Report post Posted February 27, 2008 Hi, ...Got to try one of these Pit-pots Well illustrated ! I also use Jiffy, for seeds. And Coco-maniac-friendly for the rest, growing to cloning. Lat' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeKaa 33 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 pit pots are ideal for cloning and seeds.. my seeds where out at max. 3 days (even ruderalis seeds!!) i think it is because the pitpots will have a 50/50 water/air.. that way the roots will develop undisturbed really the best little germ/cutting thingy's.. I even prefer them over root riots and jiffy's gr BK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jahroide 1 Report post Posted February 28, 2008 Hi, Thanx for the details. I think my next herijuana could be germinating in these. Just to try ... The seeds 'n the pit-pots. Lat' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskunk 2 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Nice BeeKaa ... reminds me that i still need a good rootstimulator... (preferably a cheap one) and @ the rate i,m going ...i will be out of my cuttings-powder in no time. (people r just beggin 4 'm... while i still only got a weak little Power plant (contradiction!!!) witch has just (pre) shown its gender... and some seedlings... but don't tell them ) still havn't had a chance 2 try the pitpots ... but its sure gonna happen soon. keep u posted. >CS< Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keesthemad 8 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Just as on WF, wonderfull explanation of such a simple though complicated prodecure if you want best results. I'm waiting for my heri mother(s) to get sufficient size to start cutting and this time I want to try this very simple method that seems very succesfull. I've once tried to put cuttings straight on earth, this was unsuccesfull, probably due to low temperatures, the cuttings died before they got chance of rooting. Also I've tried to use pit-pots as rooting system, this seemed to work just as well as root-riots. Currently I want to give oasis, these green blocks that absorb alot of water and are used for flower displaying, as a medium, a try. This seems to be very cost effective, even if not every cutting makes it the blocks are for a brick sized medium only about 2-3$. And you can cut at least 20-30 blocks out of it. When I've got some results on this I'll post it. Kees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeKaa 33 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 @CS i got a 250 ml bottle rhizotonic.. costs around 10 euro @keesthemad hi mate, how was/is the vacation? oasis is not recommendable.. because when you overwtare them, you can't squeeze the fluid out of it.. it does not stay in shape Here at the GS i just buy the biggest rockwool block (i believe 20x20) for about €1,20 and i can make a minimal of 70 blocks out of it gr BK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keesthemad 8 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Hmm, well, as ignorant as I've always been, I must try it... Just with some cuttings that I can miss then... I have to try everything... Kees. Vacation was awsome... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyberskunk 2 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 @ BeeKaa ... thnx 4 the tip ... thats a no brainer. @ Keesthemad ... r u gonna make chrismass decorations or cuttings I know your still gonna try ... make sure you take BeeKaa's advice and be gentile with the water. ps ... i've got a notification !!! my first on OG >CS< Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeKaa 33 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 @kees good to hear that.. and i know you: test test test! the harder i scream it won't work the faster you try it doesn't matter because with my advise and your creativity you'll probably pull it off @Cs no prob. man congrats with your notification gr BK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nox 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Very nice thread, good technique,i do everything u do almost word per word except instead of the pit-pots i use 100% vermiculite, nice and airy for them to grow a nice root ball. Anyways, 2 thumbs up on the post, keep up with the good advice. -NoX Carpe Nox - Seize the Night Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the Rock 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2008 EDIT: How to quote, click here hi how long does it take for roots to start showing with the pitpots in general, . I always add some superthrive when presoaking the medium would that be okay with the pitpots? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timetrimmer 5 Report post Posted September 22, 2008 These two small ones were taken from, as you can see, flowering blueberry. Sliced them off on 12.9. and after 9 days when i pulled one of them out had roots...sticked him back in... just hope it didn't cause much stress Keeping them on 24/0, under 70W hps... for the process i used 2 spindle cases,boiled fine masonary sand,sterilized scalper,perlite and that's that no rooting hormones of any kind. Existing pistils turned brown and i presume the plants are going back to veg state. Even if they don't make it...and they should make it, i'll not be disappointed cause at least i gave it a try, and by the looks of it it was the right call... Any suggestions about the light?? They need to stand it for a week or so,then i'll have the time to buy some blue spectrum cfl. Here they are at the beginning, when they recover i'll post a pic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reallate1 97 Report post Posted October 19, 2008 BeeKaa, Do you leave the cuttings in the pitpots or do you remove them? I know how awesome pitpots are, I used them to germ seedlings and it was amazing! Thanks for the great TUT! Peace, Real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timetrimmer 5 Report post Posted November 24, 2008 Here they are This pic was taken 5th of November, one of them ended up in the flower box because rooting ratio was 3/6 while the other one had score 6/6 I've trimmed them 3 times and threw maybe 30-40 cuttings in the trash I know it's crazy but that's just how things go. When you need something nowhere to find it...but when you finally have that you throw it away Biggest problem is not enough flower space for all of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inkog77 87 Report post Posted August 29, 2011 BeeKaa great pics so easy to understand brill pal after taking cutting you can put in propergator. i fill mine with perlite ,,, i also have a heated matt with a built in stat temp control, plus temp / humidity stat... i spray every couple of day... with water plus other products,, will share some pics..... great thread....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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dequelo 196 Report post Posted November 4, 2011 nice always love to look at how other do things I will be taking some cuts in few weeks thanks for the look all the best and be well Dequelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foodstuffs 244 Report post Posted November 5, 2011 Hello all, I just wanted to add- It might not be as fast, but you can just put cuttings in a glass of water and in a couple of weeks they should start to show some roots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inthecloset 3 Report post Posted November 5, 2011 I'll add to the above and say you can store them in water for a few weeks before you do your normal cloning procedure. I run a perpetual cycle so I need 2 - 4 new clones every week, to ensure I have a constant supply I run a 15 hole bubble cloner and store any extra cuttings in water, in the corner of my veg cabinet, until a space frees up in the cloner. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keev 169 Report post Posted November 6, 2011 nice thread! here are some of my starbud and bubblegummer clones Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites