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Hello all.....I'm in the middle of germinating my wears....i bought a fem pack from sannie with the sugar punch ...etc...and some other wears...I only have room for 2 at a time....so i decided to do a sugar punch and a mad scientist...I germ my seeds with the cup method...I dropped my beans on friday night...I usually have all my seeds from Sannie break the shell in a couple days....today when i looked the mad scientist is showing a tap root....but still nada for the sugar punch....should i just leave it for a couple more days??....or should i try to help it?...since i only got two of each seed...im not trying to mess it up....thanks for your time to read and offer your help...as always...thanks...

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as long as it looks healthy leave it be. temps approx 80. should encourage it.

 

single seed grows are iffy at best though. wish u all the best.

 

if it's been more then a few days i'd say go ahead and plant it in a sponge pot/rapid rooter for best results.

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Help the germination any way you can. Sacred makes a good point... if it's been soaking for a few days, then I'd go ahead and put the seed in some kind of medium.

 

There is always the option of cloning to keep your favorite strains going.

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When you say "the cup method," do you mean you soak them in water for a period of time before putting them in soil? If so, 24 hours in plenty for the soak. Once the seed takes in enough water to sink, you want it out of there.

 

If you want to track the germination more closely, you can put them in moist paper towels, but ever since I started using spongepots, the soaked seed goes directly into the spongepot.

 

Generally speaking, I find that indica doms germ a little quicker than sativa doms, but often there is no difference. I recently popped one Mad Scientist and one Killing Fields fem. Both germed pretty quickly. In another grow, it took a pure SE Asian sativa seeds about 6-8 days to germ, while all other strains were up and running.

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Thank you everyone. I appreciate all of your time. I looked this morning and the Sugar Punch is showing a tap root!!! Awesome.....I have a pack of spongepots. I'll be moving them into those sometime today. Again, thanks everyone and, please forgive the ignorance....

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We all went through the stress of not knowing how we can help our babies.

 

Gentle and slow is best. After a week or so in the spongepots you can move them up to the next size container.

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Next time, just do the sponge pots. Kind of a wasted step to go from a seed cracking to the sponge pots in my opinion...

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Next time, just do the sponge pots. Kind of a wasted step to go from a seed cracking to the sponge pots in my opinion...

 

pretty much... if you soak your spongepots right after you put your dry new seed in the spongepot, the pot holds heavy moisture for 2 -3 and dries out very slowly.

 

a couple drops after a week in the spongept is all they need... food for thought,

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Dont have nothing against spongepots,last grow i use them sucessfouly,but i love to put my seeds direct in soil in small pots,this way i have more than 95 % of sucess.Spongepots are really good,specialy because you can put lot of seeds on small space under cfl lamp,i think that is great for sprouting big amounts,i was used 5 packs(20 pieces) just under one double T-8 2 feet lamp-so its 100 plants under two 18 W tube lamps,that is great when you have big grow.

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i have ghad better luck with soaking sannies beans for 24 hrs before burring in soil!! i was having a ghard time germ any of his seeds!! after posting here they recomeneded me to saok them. after soaking the new batch of seeds they ALL popped!!

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Next time, just do the sponge pots. Kind of a wasted step to go from a seed cracking to the sponge pots in my opinion...

 

....Yea...But it's what I'm used to and it's always worked well for me. I like the spongepot. Only had to water once so far. I had to replant the Sugar Punch tho. The taproot pushed itself out of the spongepot..haha..I guess I didn't plant it deep enough. All taken care of now..My Mad Scientist already has it's baby leaves!

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I have found the soak to be completely unnecessary to germ the seeds from sannie's shop. If they did not sprout, there is a chance that they may have been drowned. Usually, I just plant them in damp coco coir and place them in a plastic dome until they pop(they almost always do in 3-5 days). Here are some pics of a soak I did before this last batch of Killing Fields I am germinating, just to show the process.. I soak them in carbon filtered tap water for 2 hours, or until they sink(5 hours for my last kf f3). I filled my starter trays with a custum organic potting mix that consists of 60% coco coir, 20% sphagnum peat, and 20% hydroton clay + ammendments. They hydroton was removed from the top layer of medium prior to planting. I will post a follow up when these seeds sprout (bottom right).

 

2 hours of soak, 1 sunken seed.

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5 hours of soak, and ready to plant.

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I make a shallow indentation with my finger ~1cm deep for each seed. The medium should only feel lightly damp, not saturated-seeds need to breath as well.

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now they will be cozy in their new home for the next week or 2

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A large plastic storage bin will keep them humid under the cool led veg light.

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from left to right, top to bottom, Killing Fields F3, New Blue Diesel, K.F. f3 x Sativa Queen f3, and Anesthesia.

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I hope this is helpful to someone.

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72 hours after I began the soak, and 7/8 have broken the surface.

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I will keep them in the starter pots and water with a spray bottle until they develop a second leaf set. They will go into pint-sized containers under the dome for an additional 2 leaf sets, then the final pots for a short veg.

 

The next day, the last seedling breaks the surface. 8/8 germinate which is generally the standard for any seeds(Sannies) that do not show physical damage.

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since i started using sannies spongepots ive found it so much less stressful and ive gotten great germ rates going seed to spongepot

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I know how to fuck them up.

Get impatient and keep adding water until they drownd and rot.

Get impatient and start poking around in the dirt looking for them.

Get impatient and try to help them shed there shell.

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Get impatient and keep adding water until they drowned and rot.

Get impatient and start poking around in the dirt looking for them.

Get impatient and try to help them shed there shell.

 

Im pretty sure ive done all 3 at one point, probably reverse order you listed them.

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No kidding, water is my worse enemy at this stage. I haven't dug looking for one yet. I have helped with their shell a few times...but watering. It is very hard to see the soil drying out and not give em something to drink. So little soil and I just know they aren't going to make it..... I really got to just say no....lol

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No kidding, water is my worse enemy at this stage. I haven't dug looking for one yet. I have helped with their shell a few times...but watering. It is very hard to see the soil drying out and not give em something to drink. So little soil and I just know they aren't going to make it..... I really got to just say no....lol

 

just use a bubble cloner or any good water cloner then watering will not do you in again. and those roots can be used anyway you grow, from dirt to hydro and anything in between . i struggled at times with jiffy's maybe 70% germ rates, did better with cups of pro mix bx, and did best with a growclone once dialed in. never looked back. I'm about to take a top off a masker kush and clone it for a mommy plant. i was going to fire up the cloner for that 2 cut, but since i found my rooting powder i'll juts use a clear cup sitting in a red cup and be done with it. of course i might smoke a doober and use the cloner lol. smdh

 

i never had watering issues though and i have domed them with their own little cup dome as well as used no dome which i did quite a bit. all rooted just fine. used powder, gel, honey, and spit as well as plain spring water set it and forget it. they all worked fine and always rooted.

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i struggled at times with jiffy's

 

Me too. If you dont saturate them enough to start, you can get hard pack, making the seed grow in the wrong direction. Then if you overwater them its not easy to get the water out after the fact.

I really liked the spongepots i got as a freebie my last order, those were great.

 

Maybe Jiffy should make their cubes more cannabis friendly, hold less water to start

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I like the 4 x 4 cm rock-wool blocks, just water them once and wait for the seedling to show itself.

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On 4/8/2018 at 5:45 AM, Hamme Hydro said:

I like the 4 x 4 cm rock-wool blocks, just water them once and wait for the seedling to show itself.

I think i will try this next time. I really liked the spongpots from sannies, but i dont have instant access to them like  would the rockwool blocks.

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I think you won't regret it. My most recent germination ratio  was 19/21 and the seeds were kept for almost a year in the fridge.

Make sure you sprinkle the seeds with a bit of water before you bury it in the rock-wool and than let the block suck up the rest of it from the bottom until it is saturated. And last but not least: don't squeeze the wet blocks. 

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