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By looking your last Pure I see (maybe I'm wrong we never know...) that it seems having complete oligo-e issues now Fe, Mn and Zn.

With the pH graph we see this issue are completely dependent from pH, so hope it will correct this rapidly.

Adding a few oligo-e can be good finally. Will see...

All the best.

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thanks for the help Hiwatt :tu

 

i keep you informed with the results. Today there is no spectacular modification in aspect, maybe a very little greener.

 

The 2 AOs are big strechers :whistle:, i hope they will stop soon, they grow like rockets, 4cm/day easily.

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It has really beautiful leaves despite the 12th finger... the pure has nice buds though, more than smokable.

See you so. :)

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Silver Surfer,

 

I'm still following this thread bud! I'm interested in creating a light exactly like yours. Please help me build it! How much will it cost me and where should I start looking for the parts?

 

On your Agent Orange with the 63W of LED's how many grams did you end up with?

 

Good work bro, I look forward to your response.

 

Thanks,

 

Bothof

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Hey Bothof,

 

I still don't know the g/W, i have to trim her, she is dry now. With such a lamp, 0,6/0,7g/W is very easy to do, and a lot more if the plant react well to spectrum. It was a grapegod, not an agent orange. AO has a better yield i think.

 

She had very low temperature during the grow, so yield is not the best.

 

Here are 2 C99 in 10inch pots under 2 spots, exactly same spectrum (half the lamp i have, only 2spots/4 so 31W of power), 15,5W/plant :innocent:

 

at 57 days

 

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I PM you

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This 2 cups are simply wonderful, you have put me another time again on my ass bro ! Also you know I love Cindy... :dribble:

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the 2 cindys at 62 days (female seeds C99 cuttings)

 

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it's not my grow, but it is exactly the same led engines which i used for the GG. 1royal blue Osram Oslon/2 cree XTE 3200K R2/ 2 LD 625nm red Oslon/ 2 LH hyper red 660nm red Oslon, SSL80.

 

With only16W/plant, it's amazing how she likes this spectrum :innocent:

ferts are biobizz grow, bloom and topmax, that's all. The g/W will be done I think.

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Are they clones from your last females seeds growth or another selection from your mate ?

This plant look very close of my best Cindy pheno I got, very good skunky looking with some haze, pure pineapple frosty the faster from the 2 mothers I got, single cola was awesome, the other was a hazy more producer...

 

Have you tried to make a more powerful led panel with this engine and spectrum ? like a 200 or 250W ?

How many led have this one please ? 6 on each for 16W ?

Thanks for infos. :nerd

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It's another selection. Did you grow the female seeds cindy? I tried the FS and the Mosca BX1, the FS seems to be very nice. Mosca's too but it would probably need more plants to find the right pheno. The FS seems to give more yield. Mosca's is frostier.

 

These are 7 leds engines, 1RB/2WW 3200K/2 red 625/2 red 660, power consumption for one engine is 13,5W, 15,4W with the driver at 88% efficiency.

No i won't make a big lamp, but i will make a grow in 80x80 tent with 4 lamps like these:

 

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the heatsinks are 40cm long, distance between engines is 20cm x 20cm, so 16 engines for 80x80cm, it will be perfect.

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The light above is one I will be getting to light up my next tube grow. I will have to cut it down slightly as the tube diameter will be 48cm or there about.

 

After much much reading I totally understand why Sliva makes his lights in this configuration rather than making one large panel.

By my understanding you'll get a better more uniform spread with no light hot spots.

With the efficiency of the engines silva uses And the configuration he places them in compared to the large panels you can buy Pre made, I think the larger panels are a waste of energy and cash?

They maybe not as pretty but damn they sure work.

An old prototype from IS-LED (Ideal Spectrum) I'm playing with has already impressed me with its ability to shoot the plants roots out the bottom of the pot, the plants colour is amazing and this is only with 1 engine.

 

Gotta hand it to Sliva for his Skillz.

 

Grtz HC

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Good Information, I understand the fact that by multiply number of panels, you can put it on each plant certainly better height control and light diffusion...

Does this FDM Pure recover again a few ? how goes your Orange agent also ?

No I don't have grown the FMS, just interrogative on, last years only the Nectar seeds 2 times and my fem crossing...

Awesome work Silver, thanks for sharing a few... :smoke

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hey Hiwatt,

 

The Pure seems to be a little better but nothing spectacular, i'm still correcting the water PH to 6-6,1, today she had a little of bloom + humates.

 

The 2 AO's are strechy ladies, i probably found two sativaish phenos. One will be later to flower and is a bit taller, the second one is a bit more productive. The smaller budder is frostier. Both seems more JTR leaning, the smell is a bit hazy and lime.

AO can be a good yielder, especially the short phenos, but these are not short phenos, so I expect more punch and potency to the smoke.

I will post pics tomorrow, they are beautiful plants.

Can't wait to see them at the end of flowering. I'm waiting for the AO's harvest to go to hollidays, so i'm very impatient.

 

peace

Silva

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After much much reading I totally understand why Sliva makes his lights in this configuration rather than making one large panel. By my understanding you'll get a better more uniform spread with no light hot spots. With the efficiency of the engines silva uses And the configuration he places them in compared to the large panels you can buy Pre made, I think the larger panels are a waste of energy and cash? They maybe not as pretty but damn they sure work. An old prototype from IS-LED (Ideal Spectrum) I'm playing with has already impressed me with its ability to shoot the plants roots out the bottom of the pot, the plants colour is amazing and this is only with 1 engine. Gotta hand it to Sliva for his Skillz. Grtz HC
I agree also, the modularity of "exo-led" is smarter, and who does the more does the less, you can joint them if needed, but i much prefer like this, it is smarter. So smart than I ordered two others :P

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So smart than I ordered two others :P

 

Jealous. Waiting on client payments before I can order by new larger toy which is a bugger as I'd love to leave the auto Mikromachine machine under led rather than moving her outside, but as I started the thread as 'lowryder' I should stick to my plan........ Or I could give my clients an ear bashings to speed up payment lol.... But not very professional :(

I hope you enjoy your new toys La Vie.

 

Grtz HC

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Hope too , all three will be "only" 28w - 6 Led x 3 - 60cm, but 2@80* and 1@150°, and i think i will have the DP90 surface (60x90) well light (60cm x 30cm each module).

I wanted to wait money incomes too, but wanna play earlier :)

I'm looking with many many interest your tubes too, with some solar panel, smart too :)

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Without meaning to side track this thread La Vie.........

Circumstances dictate that at present my large grows are not happening for some time ......... But I can see a few leds in multiple tubes replacing the large grow for now lol. Solar isn't cheap really to set up right bearing in mind where I live... But I'm nearly there with design for one 4 engine tube at least.

 

Grtz HC

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A few led grows in small spacies is very interesting, and can be very productive. I think that the challenge of making the best weed in the smallest space with as less Watts as possible is a funny game.

 

Update, 52 days for the Pure, 28 days of 12/12 for the Agent Orange.

 

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I switched to my Lumatek 600W, with a 600W bulb at 75%. Maybe I should use a 400W bulb, spectrum and output would be probably better. Do someone here have an opinion about that?

 

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400W is better with such strechers (the AOs). With short plants as the Pure i would go with my 250 on superlumen, but now the 2 AOs needs penetration.

 

The pure at 52 days of 12/12, buds seems to be still growing, but the damages are hard to remove, she will never recover.

 

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her smell is great! :dribble:

 

Agent Orange #1, 95cm with the pot (11l):

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Agent Orange#2, probably the more JTR leaning pheno, smell haze and citrus, small buds but frosty, 1m tall with pot:

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It seems that the green is a bit lighter at the top of plants, maybe they are lacking a bit of N.

 

grtz

Silva

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I think you must see recovering rapidly with pH corrected... this is the end I will say you flush it if you don't see it better.

For the AO, this is normal that top leaves are more lime green, Nitrogen deficiency often comes from the bottom Silver by using N in the leaves before to fall... Don't change your AO program, it seems this Pure has special need or this soil has a problem. :huh:

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Thanks Hiwatt,

 

I will flush the Pure. She will give a nice yield nevertheless. They had the same soil, AOs and TP, canna pro +, same package, so I continue saying the problem comes from the tabs.

 

Thanks for the help bro ;)

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Yes It has beautiful buds though, your agent orange is perfect, please don't think of issue now...

By chance have you tried to measure the pH/EC from the pure drain ? Perhaps It'll give you an indication of the problem.

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Yes It has beautiful buds though, your agent orange is perfect, please don't think of issue now...

 

no, not issue, but I increased the ferts a bit yesterday, leafs are not as shiny as they should

 

By chance have you tried to measure the pH/EC from the pure drain ? Perhaps It'll give you an indication of the problem.

 

Usually i never flush a plant in canna pro+, if the pot is 11l, i water with 1,1l (10%) when the soil is very dry. So the roots are adapted to this watering. She is watered all her life according to this 10% rule (my own rule). I know growers who water more, 15% or more and they have nice plants, but it is my way of growing, it works well so i don't change it. The most important thing IMAO is to respect the dry/moist cycle, and not to overwater to keep a good oxygen ratio at the roots (which is good for soil life too).

I discussed one day with a specialist at Canna, he told me that the plant will adapt her roots to the watering.

(He learnt me coco growing, with no drain! most people don't agree with this method, but it works well.)

 

If i flush her now, if i want to have some drain, i will need to water with 1,5L maybe, or more. Do you think she won't be stressed with overwatering?

Canna pro+ is not coco IMAO. For sure it will give indication of the problem but on the other hand she will have a stress, because she is not familiar with heavy watering, no?

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Hi Bro',

 

I agree, the most important is to be used with his own habits. I personnaly water each 4 days with 2 liters in 11L (a 1/5th of the pot volume until dry) . 1Kw, they drink more. In fact, never more than twice a week with the canna terra pro +, that's the best way.

By the past, i had also some issues with tabs and some strains, to strong wich lead to locking syndrom or burn.

 

Keep the good job on :)

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Thanks bro TheLifeInPink ;)

 

the AOs drink 1,1l/day each under 450W :blink: !

Good to know that 1/5 of the pot volume is not too much.

 

Yes, tabs, sometimes they do very well, sometimes they are too strong. Usually I'm pleased with them.

I'm just beginning a new grow with the Pure, from cutting, with no tabs, under leds, to test a reddish spectrum with no blue led.

 

40x40 setup, 63W, 1blue/2WW/4reds for veg and first week of 12/12, and after that, switch to another lamp with 3WW/4reds.

The veg is at half power, 31W. 11liters pot, canna pro plus, iguana bloom F1 H2 + soil life

 

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can't stop to play with this little setup :likken:

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