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We got awesome buds in Seattle. Maybe you could import some.

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That's my kind of cousin, LaVie. Maybe you can invite him to the forum and tell us what he's got in the picture.

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We have a proverb : " Donner, c'est donner, reprendre, c'est voler"/ "To give is 'to give', to take it back is 'to steal'". it is worst when it is a human legitim right, i'm still waiting for the light to be plug around there, we are scratching silex stones for instance ...

 

That's my kind of cousin, LaVie. Maybe you can invite him to the forum and tell us what he's got in the picture.

 

It is a kind of European & North American Union , 'cause i'm surrounded by two Mexican on right and behind (and my Silver chitral on left ) See my mexican thread, i've just updated ;)

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There are A Lot of real issues here, not just one.

 

Pot was something that "Those People" use to do before Nixon. They were generally ignored and not part of regular beer drinking society. Hippies were protesting Nixon because of the war in Viet Nam. Nixon decided to break up the protest by going after the hippies for pot (LSD and other drugs). He lumped them all together as one thing, created a propaganda campaign and found a way to break up the hippies legal form of protest by going after the drugs. It grew from there as a financial empire on Both sides.

 

When you have drugs, only costing a lot because they are illegal, you have a narco economy. Voters are influenced most by their pocketbooks, so a narco economy flourishes exponentially. When coke was running rampant in Miami in the 70s and 80s it built the Miami we see today. Before it was like Mobile Alabama. The narco economy had a lot of greed and corruption. Again, when it is illegal it cost more and all that money buys away a lot of morality. People that would never touch coke would still take the money for the house or cars they were selling. It is a powerful force.

 

Canada seems to lag the USA in policy by about 20 years. By the time the Canadians are on board with an American policy it turns and goes the other way. Rarely do those two countries synchonize on policy. About the time the USA abolishes the death penalty Canada will adopt it.

 

Prohibition was a failure (the USA actually brought liquor into the USA from Canada during prohibition.. that is where the Kenedy's got rich), the war on drugs is a failure, and just trying to legislate morality itself is a failure. People want to be free to do what they want and no matter what the laws are a good many will rebel against them. It is human nature. A good many people chose to smoke marijuana because it is Not Mainstream. I prefer marijuana people because they are not mainstream. We tell people to think outside the box but then punish them for doing it.

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Canada has been on the verge of decriminalization before. It was pressure from the US that stopped it.

 

They still talk about it, though.

http://petition.liberal.ca/end-prohibition/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=a&utm_campaign=marijuana-petition&gclid=CJ2XyMDxirkCFYwWMgod-XwAxw

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We actually were there for possession under 30g during early to mid 90's.

 

randude although I agree with almost everything you're saying in that post, wrecks is 100% correct. The US government forced Canada to toughen drug laws, specifically pot related laws. The US threatened to apply sanctions to border activity.

 

I don't blame any from the US being misinformed on out-of-country topics...I've watched Fox News and CNN...the shit they spew about Canada is borderline retarded.

 

We got awesome buds in Seattle. Maybe you could import some.

 

Also, to even mentioning importing weed from Seattle, across a border to a country that has more weed than we know what to do with highlights a bit of the misconceptions on Canada's weed scene. Awesome buds maybe, just not in the same volume.

 

If you haven't watch the documentary called "The Union...The Business Behind Getting High" check it out. They do a nice job of showing how cannabis has embedded into our infrastructure and how much money is made from Canada shipping cannabis to the US.

 

Read this story. This was 2003, just before the Conservatives swept in and took office. Because of John Walters Canada now has American style super prisons, just for pot growers.

 

A top White House drug policy official is threatening retaliation from the U.S. if Canada relaxes its laws against marijuana possession.

David Murray, right-hand man to U.S. "drug czar" John Walters, says he doesn't want to tread on another country's sovereignty, but warned there would be consequences if Canada proceeds with a plan to decriminalize the possession of marijuana.

David Murray

"We would have to respond. We would be forced to respond," said Murray.

 

 

Murray didn't spell out what the American response would be, but he invoked images of tie-ups at border crossings and intense bureaucracy.

He said if marijuana becomes more widely used in Canada, it could penetrate more widely into the U.S.

Murray tried to express the feeling in the U.S. that looser drug laws go hand-in-hand with an increase in crime and drug addiction among youth, and used some apocalyptic language to do it.

"You can't wall this off saying, 'We're only talking about a little cannabis.' Our experience is they come together like the Four Horsemen," he said.

Murray said Canada's reputation in the global community would be forever altered if it decided to decriminalize pot.

"It's not just Canada's relationship with the United States that would change; it's Canada's relationship with the world," he said.

In fact, many countries, notably in Europe, have already decriminalized marijuana, but none of them share a border with the U.S., where the policy is zero tolerance for smoking pot.

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I'm still wondering with my wife if it is a Canabis Grower licence ? I saw this many times during my last canadian journey, even on bottom of Gaspesia, this one is take close to Rimouski if i remember weel, but i never went out the car to read it more closely :)

 

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So from next spring, no more labeled windows like this ?

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I agree with you guys that Canada was more liberal than the US and caved under US Pressure to reform. Now the US is getting more liberal. It is an ironic twist that I was illustrating. I live 120 miles from BC and use to live right on the boarder (Bellingham). I have known of people getting rich hiking with buds over the border on wooded trails.

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I wouldn't call Canada "behind" the US, but their political right and left rise and fall out of phase with the US. They also don't swing as far to the right when they swing that direction.

 

Just a few years ago I thought Canada would legalize and the US would be flooded with high quality weed, and laws would be forced to change. Then when the old OG board, Stairway to Heaven and Emory went down, that notion was finished. I guess it will be piecemeal in the US. It's difficult to imagine a federal force closing down Washington and Colorado for legalizing a substance that the president used to sell.

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I agree MrDirt, and phase alignment is what I was talking about I don't really think Canada will ever have the death penalty, that was just a satirical poke. I remember a time when you could go to Vancouver, buy and smoke weed in a legal business. Well I know places in Seattle where you can do that, all under the guise of medical marijuana, Whatever, it is actually happening. In my personal opinion there is nothing medical about that. I love the culture, but never call getting high "medicating". Some guy in the market carves out an apple to let me medicate and sample his buds. I have to just laugh as a quazi outsider to that. I got my license so I could grow and possibly get grandfathered in case they make getting a license tougher in the new tax the devil reform we are now gowing through. I seen a lawmaker on TV talking about what a sham the medical program is, and how we are scamming the goverrnment out of money by using a medical license to avoid the excessive taxes they are putting on commercial sales.

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I'm still wondering with my wife if it is a Canabis Grower licence ? I saw this many times during my last canadian journey, even on bottom of Gaspesia, this one is take close to Rimouski if i remember weel, but i never went out the car to read it more closely :)

 

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So from next spring, no more labeled windows like this ?

 

That's a warning label that the house has been part of a grow operation and that it is unsafe to put on the market to sell.

 

Doesn't matter if it was done right and no damage is found...it's automated to ruin the peoples lives forever.

 

Sorry if I'm harsh at all regarding this topic. As you guys probably would guess, I'm gutted and probably should stay away from this one.

 

I am applying to become a regulated operator unfortunately it's even tougher to get than it was for the MMAR. That took 27 visits to 27 specialists...the 27th signed my form for $2500.

 

Peace

RM

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One thing is for certain, now with Washington, Colorado, and soon to be California, Oregon, and possibly 2 other states, as well as several more bound to pass medical marijuana, this subject WILL be confronted to whomever is running for the president job, in televised events. Ooooooh, I wonder what they'll say?

Hopefully, someone other than Rand Paul would come out in support of defunding the war on drugs, which everyone with a brain, knows has been a complete waste of time, money, sacrifices of personal freedom, life, and property.

Canada will be just fine, and hopefully they do what they want, and not what my, or any other nation feels what Canada ought to.

Oh, and this is not said enough, I am sick and tired of Mexico being treated like dogs compared to ourselves and to our northern neighbors. Too much "Redneck" in our government, imo. Cannabis was called Marijuana and is illegal in part from this same racism I speak of.

I am optimistic and hopeful for some positive changes in all of our lives, starting with worldwide tolerant attitude towards personal freedoms. Peace.

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This is what it sounds like, when pigs cry.

 

If California and any combination of Virginia Nevada Ohio and or Iowa legalize the presidential election will depend on states that have legalized pot.

 

Well see an "Abrupt" change of heart in our federal government when this happens weather they like it or not.

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Doesn't matter if it was done right and no damage is found...it's automated to ruin the peoples lives forever.

 

OOoo--Kay ... and the hunt season starts when ? Just after the first snow falls ? :lol:

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