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That's the pic that should've been here. EWC tea 1st attempt

 

dechlorinated h2o

ewc

blackstrap molasses

 

bubble n go...

 

been just over 24hrs so far, gonna see if the planets fall into alignment so I can water everyone in place as soon as the lights/ventilation r done.

 

Everything I've read say to let it bubble for 36-48hrs before use so that's what I'll do.

 

So far the total organic approach seems waaaaay easier than the bottle method. Now I just gotta get those 20gal fabric pots

 

We're gonna need a bigger boat....

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Its shockingly easier isn't it? Much less of a slave to the garden, some auto-watering and it becomes damn near hands-off.

 

It's almost as if plants can grow without constant human and synthetic chemical interaction....who'd have thought.

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I know, right?

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Hey mad, reading this with great interest, thanks for the heads up on the teaming with nutrients book too, the previous teaming with microbes is one of my favourites, although I must admit I haven't had the balls to go fully that way yet. Good luck on the switch man

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I think I said it somewhere, Teaming with Microbes is likely the only book I have read in my adult life.

 

Mad - how many gallons you brewing up at once and how many watts or LPH does your pump put out. 24 hrs may be enough with 48 being the high end for optimum. You need enough air though regardless.

 

Dude

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Sorry for the lack of updates, you guys...been a busy summer so far.

 

Grabbed me some gear yesterday straight from Mota's booth at the cup:

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WHOO HOO!!!!

 

Valley Ghash, Twisted Fruit, Redneck Kush...it was cool to meet those guys and they had some BADASS buds on the table. Straight FIRE!

 

Had to sample some of the local stuff, too

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Man, they know how to party over here. Getting legal was the best fucking thing I've ever done.

 

I'll update all of the threads as soon as the noise dies down a little over here. Still another whole day of free dabs and half naked hotties to wade through and then I have to deal with the next round of beans from the shop that are soaking as I type this. Sannie's Jack, Kolossus, Killingfields...

 

It's gonna be a great winter for breeding projects!

 

Have a great weekend and PEACE TO ALL

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MF420,

ok nice thread, and finally a couple picks., you made up for all of that with the last pictures of those sacred plant maidens,

my fave was the Queen in the background with the black t-shirt & black shorts, sunglasses, beautiful hair. simply stunning imho. thx.

 

Congrats :wave: now get to growing and have a great time doing it. :icecream:

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Sorry to go slightly off topic but have you ever tried fermented plant juice extracts as amendments mad/organic? Curious of your thoughts experiences, very interesting.

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No worries even, it's actually not off track at all. Seems like I am the one who lost focus for a while

 

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having these lovely ladies following you around offering free water/snacks/dabs was quite the diversion indeed!

 

You had to wait on line to get some of the REALLY good free dabs...

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but the waiting wasn't so bad when you really think about it -

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That one's for you SPW!

 

I'll get back to business here pretty soon. All of the beans I put in the paper towels the other day have cracked:

 

4/4 Sannie's Jack

4/4 Killingfields (reg)

4/4 Kolossus

 

Everything in flo looks okay so far ( Chocolate Rain, Chucky, Silverfields, Huck, SourD, Chem, DeathStar) - I may have jumped the gun by switching everything over all at once, but only time will tell. I just need to get a routine down and get the mix dialed in.

 

I haven't been posting the usual boring pics in an attempt to liven the thread up a little. Sometimes the week by week day by day pics get old. Then again, some people say they like to see lots of pics, so you can't win. Like someone else said in another thread - sometimes it feels like I'm just writing all this shit for myself. To those that stop by the thread and post stuff I say thanks! All the rest can go smoke a bowl.

 

:tu

 

I'll be doing lots of work in the next month or so and it should be a budfest around here soon. Lots of transplanting, seed popping, cloning and breeding, and of course the trimming...

 

I'll try to get a few good shots from the room for those that gas

 

peace to all

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Just do your thing bro. If you want to share pics, please do. I know it helps me learn with the use of visual aides along with good content. I would wait in line behind that all day if I had to!

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Hey, don´t get too angry. Opengrow is like a village and posters are the entertainers of the village. Do you know, that O.G. has over 5ooo members? I would bring down the regular posters of 50 growers. Living in a village is the same. 95% are watching what you do and 5% are doing so amazing things that you want to watch too. Me too, I look into threads, but don´t know , what to post, so I read the next one until it gets boring and leave without posting. Don´t forget that many people are high, when they´re on this side and you know that communication is not the first thing that comes in mind, when you´re on a certain level.

 

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WHOO HOO!!!!

 

Valley Ghash, Twisted Fruit, Redneck Kush...it was cool to meet those guys and they had some BADASS buds on the table. Straight FIRE!

 

Had to sample some of the local stuff, too

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Man, they know how to party over here. Getting legal was the best fucking thing I've ever done.

 

...must be heaven !!

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looks like a great time, cant wait to see how those genetics like your new setup. Good work and great thread. THanks for sharin

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Morning All.

 

Finally have a chance to sit down and upload a few pics. It's been crazy around here for the past few weeks and with no internet I haven't really been able to keep up with the updates, but I am taking the pics and will probably just post everything at once after harvest. Had a very interesting encounter with leo last week that I will describe in another, more fitting thread.

 

So the seeds I cracked a couple weeks ago are up and running. Kolossus, Sannie's Jack and Killingfields. Mix packs are awesome. 28 strains total after the cannabis cup...I basically only just started collecting seeds this past December!

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The organic mix I started with petered out in the containers that were vegging the longest. I topdressed with a premixed organic amendment and they all perked back up. Unfortunately, I had to begin adjusting the ph of the water, as the "no ph adjusting necessary" theory does not seem to apply to me for some reason - hydrated lime, blahblahblah...I will get it right one of these days, probably when I get a farm up here and do it outdoors like those crazy chuckys in legaltoker's garden.

 

A filtration system is the next addition to the room. (should've been the first!) I've been bending and pinching and trying to train the canopy to be somewhat level to no avail. Looks good nonetheless. Sorry for the shitty pics, but I'm having camera problems at the moment. Probably operator malfunction

 

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Chucky's Bride - at 28 days into flo, these are by far the thickest and stinkiest of all in the room. Got three different phenos and no male out of five seeds.

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HUCK KUSH LOOKING SWEET! THANK YOU PROF!

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And the Chocolate rain...frosty as hell and this pheno smells SO damn sweet! 4 females and 1 male. I have the male cloned and on standby for winter seed projects.

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Many of the gals in the flowering room have been pollinated accidentally on purpose. I basically mixed a little tiny bit of pollen from the Huck, Chocolate Rain and Silverfields males and threw it in front of one of the fans. Dusted everything. These unknown mixes are all gonna be fire, and I'll just go picking through the beans for years. Females pollinated were DeathStar, ChemD, SourD, Chucky, Huck, SF and ChocRain

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@Even - Yes, I did try some fermented extracts earlier on. Dandelions, actually, and I really didn't notice any difference. Then again, I am probably the worst person to ask because , "I didn't really notice any difference" is not very empirical at all. I am interested in the theory of biodynamic gardening though. Just such an amatuer...I envy all of you really technical guys out there doing all of the science that makes it easy for the rest of us. Data is valuable.

 

@Islay - Thanks for stopping by! How's that CO2 working out for you??? I am getting ready to grab another tank this week and hit em hard for weeks 5, 6, and 7. I think it helps with the bugs too. Especially the way I just blast 'em. Glad you appreciate the posts, bro.

 

@Saxo & Starin' - You guys should see the after party pics...man oh man. I'm just now recovering fully from that weekend.

 

Misterdirt, you are more than welcome to come and help me trim all of these fine buds. I'll be hiring some 420 nurses of my own to help facilitate "employee comfortability" during the week long stretches of scissor play...

 

We'll see if it was worth the switch to organic soil after harvest. So far it looks like there will be more this time, with less problems as well. I did make some major adjustments to the room, though so everything has to be taken into consideration. I know the smoke will be great tasting and smooth at least.

 

It's tough to update regularly from a free wifi spot, so be patient everyone. I will definitely throw up some serious bud porn soon, even if I have to borrow a camera.

 

Have a great week you guys and stay smoked out.

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Hey man, here's a site with some electrostatic filters for the intake that I mentioned before, essentially polypropylene becomes naturally electrostatic when air moves through it and will attract those spores and trap them

 

http://www.goodfiltercompany.com/polypropylene-electrostatic-filters.html

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Looking great. Those crosses sound amazeballs. I have yet to run the chuckys, but looking like I will have to soon. I have 3 kolossus that I plan on moving into 12/12 very soon. I just remember that they yield a ton!!!!

 

The co2 is working great, actually just ran the tank out. Been using it in veg under the leds and it seems to help a bunch. Thanks again for hooking a brother up!!

 

One last thing, out of all those sample packs what you looking forward to most? I am always interested in the guys/girls trying to get into the seed game. Kind of a long term dream of mine.

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Yeah man, Chucky will blow up a spot in a hurry....carbon filters or not. Never seen anything stink like her, ever. Smuggling skunks and skittles.

 

You find one with some decent structure to her? I think I said it before, but clone that one...

 

Not pHing water is tricky. You really have to have some good living soil going to pull it off, very high life and CEC. I bet you never had to pH that black gold down on the islands ;)

 

That said, my water is fucking awful and I have to assume you are in the same boat. I know its the one thing I fight, but my latest method seems to be doing the trick for a few runs in a row now. I throw in a heaping half teaspoon of citric acid per 5 gallons of water to defeat alkalinity from building up. This seems to have done the trick of fighting not pHing and is better than adding N or P real deal acid to my grow. Its debatable, but some even argue citric can have positive benefits including phosphorus uptake.

 

Looking good in there! Ready to see some Mota on display.

 

PS - I wouldnt worry too much about the canopy...you appear to have enough light to get some penetration ;)

 

Dude

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Hey dude, I must say your info on alkalinity has been the best thing I've read in many years, been using it recently after reading it in your own thread and have noticed a drastic difference

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@Mad - interesting way to breed, mixing the male pollen. Should yield some fascinating results, especially with all the crosses you are going to gain from that inititive. Best of luck finding a keeper there, prbably find a few of them with those genes.

 

I have done the bride, and the rain, great plants, if you havent tried them yet, you are indeed in for a treat.

 

Sounds like the switch is doing you good, keep it up!

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Glad to hear it Even. I don't expect everyone here to run out and be organic. We all do our own thing that works for us. But its nice to be able to provide common sense information / advice that anyone can use. The understanding of water pH versus alkalinity is one of these areas.

 

This was one thing that I knew was causing me problems early on with my organic growing. I would typically see some issues like Shoe was posting early on in my thread that we were able to get resolved for him. I knew my water was shit, but refused to pH my water and kill the micro herd. Like MM said - you're not supposed to have to with organics right??? This is when I started really researching this whole issue. Two things were at play.

 

1) You had better have some damn good compost and get your soil life way up before you attempt this. I had been under the wrong impression that lime was your buffer. Yes lime can buffer, but your real buffer in true organics is your soil life / CEC. I have since drastically improved my soil life. No skimping on high quality compost / EWC. Lots of teas. Going big on Bokashi this next run which I haven't mentioned yet on my thread... ;)

2) If you are using lime (calcium carbonate) and have high alkalinity water (high carbonates, typically calcium) - your soil pH will be on a steady rise due to the constant addition of carbonates. This was particularly an issue for me as I recycle my soil. This can lead to lockout of any number of elements and general pH induced "deficiencies".

 

Honestly since I have been treating my water with citric this has all gone away. There is information out there on how to calculate how much acid you need to remove your alkalinity to a low safe level. I basically just did a redneck titration to get close. It seems to be working fine though some day I will get bored and really dial it.

 

Here is most of the information Even was talking about if you don't want to go sort through 20 pages:

 

https://www.opengrow.com/topic/48230-first-postit-could-be-a-good-one/page__view__findpost__p__600002

 

Then there was this rant (oops sorry): https://www.opengrow.com/topic/48230-first-postit-could-be-a-good-one/page__view__findpost__p__612542

 

This was more about lime (Ca and/or Mg carbonates) in soil, but the same concept applies to water with high alkalinity. The addition of acid (pH down) will liberate the CO3 (carbonates) in your water to C02 and water in the chemical reaction. Aerated water will reach C02 equilibrium after some amount of time. I am pretty well convinced this liberation of C02 is what causes the pH to rise back up over time with citric acid as it reaches equilibrium (C02 levels in water affect pH too). That and something to do with it being a weaker acid than your typical pH down acids. Refer back to my comment about wanting to do the math on the exact amount I should use someday :)

 

This reaction and some good information in general can ironically be found on the USGA site lol: http://www.primeturf.com/24USGA.pdf

 

Another good common sense type of article: http://www.hortweek.com/news/1177083/Water-acidification/

 

Dude

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Wow! You guys are turning this into a bonafide thread...

 

So glad you all drop in and add your .02 because that's what it's all about, really. I have learned so much from reading your thread, Dude and for that I thank you. All of the pertinent info and links would've taken me a lot longer to find without your help.

 

Alkalinity is an interesting topic and since you first mentioned it way back when, I have been telling myself to get a really good water filtration system. I am working on the compost situation, as I have plenty of experience making that stuff. The ewc project was put on hold due to logistics, but once I add that to the mix it's on. Having my own ewc and compost will make all the difference when combined with good water filter. Up in the mountains we have natural spring water that comes from an aquifer about 90' down. Some of the best water I have ever had in my life and I miss it.

 

I have used lime to make a dirt mix outside, on a large scale, and find that it works best when you let it all sit for at least three or four months with constant turning of the pile. There are chickens running around loose and they just tear through the pile and eat bugs and shit everywhere and aerate the stuff real good so you have to rake it all up almost every day. It bothered me at first, but the symbiotic nature of it all is what gives the life. Hard to replicate in an inner city ghetto basement. Not impossible, but a bit tougher. Once we get a farm I will get to do my thing for real. btw...there are three beautiful Chucky clones in 10gal pots vegging right now

 

@Even - I think you may have misunderstood the earlier post I made about filtration - no problems yet with mold or mildew thanks to the advice I gleaned from the likes of you, Polder, Scone, Joker, OrganicO and many others (too many too remember or list) - the filtration I was referring to was WATER. That dust in the pic is some Huck Pollen...

 

@Starin - I'm not really breeding as much as stashing genetics for future use. One thing I've learned in this game over the years is to not put all of your eggs in one basket. Five or six seed stashes all over the place will ensure a speedy restar due to any sort of catastrophic failure (god forbid). Power outages occur, hurricanes, floods and other issues do pop up from time to time and it's nice to have a stash or two. Or four or five or six. And the beans are so easy to make! I am not a breeder, just a lover of this beautiful plant and I want to ensure I have access to good genes for many years to come. I am so glad the Chuckys have seeds on them, and I could care less which male it was because the Chuckys look and smell so good at 4 1/2 wks into flo! Same with the Chocolate Rain...

 

I did do huck x huck, sf x sf, cr x cr just to be safe though!

 

@Islay - The sample packs that interest me most were the Cole Train (RP) (which unforunately were fems and only one made it) and Sensi Star, which I hope to get a male from. Can you say DeathStar redux? Actually, just about every strain I've got right now seems to be pretty damn dank.

 

Hopefully I'll get lots n lots of beans so I can send 'em in to sannie for freebies for you guys. Mystery Mix Packs!!!

 

I did add a new carbon filter this round - I think I may need another one...

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