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The transition from canna terra plus to canna coco plus

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If yr using the same tap water for yr current grows and yr not experiencing any probs, it will be ok to use with coco, ff not you maybe better off using RO water, just to be on the safe side.

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hi ya,

just mix a bag canna terra with 14ltr coco - dolomite lime - lrg handful wormcastings - buffer tabs in each pot - water with bacto

jobs good n

benefits of hydro power with organic - Sannie's mix

 

I use this soil coco mix and love it

 

just a thought for you in your move to coco

 

grtz craftycarper

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Kiss , If it's not broke don't fix : )

But it's callin me iiiiiiifishhhhhhhhh , you know you want me !

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh stop it

Ok 50/50 it is ...... U talked me into it

Unless I change my mind again

Idk

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@carper

I'm not a big fan of mixing

Does sound good tho : )

The dolomite lime would put me off , is that because of the extra coco ?

And thankyou for chatting

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lol o what have I gone and done

 

I wouldn't go 50/50 1bag terra soil to 1bucketfull of coco = 14ltrs

yeah dolomite lime is for ph buffering

wormcastings are amazing for any soil plants

sannie buffer tabs extra buffering and feeds the plants mainly in veg about week into flower,than use your own feed after that

just as important and wormcastings is Bacto this stuff is brilliant ,,,must use it

 

have a look at my photo gallery,everything youll ever need

 

grtz craftycarper

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Sorry carper that post was a aimed at the previous post with hazy daze about RO water (. 50/50 ) with tap

Is there not enough buffer in the mix already without havin to add any ?

 

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Caps was abit much lol

But thanks for the heads up

I'll try and wind it in abit

I know you mean well also

Wrong way not taken

Again thank you :)

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Hey ifish, some points about your nute change - test your coco before you commit to using a bunch. Some is rinsed and buffered, some not so much.

 

So run your water over it until fully saturated and drain and test ppm on coco - should be 300 or less. I've found some is 750 +.

 

Don't run cal-mag with the canna coco nutes as it already has calmag added to it. Some plants that are already sensitive to it may need additional, but most

will not. Run 700-1000 ppm. PH should be around 5.7

 

You can't over water in a single watering, but you need to let it dry out every once in a while.

 

Nobody has mentioned it, but I had the experience that since they don't have a grow and bloom version that stretch is increased until week 5 of bloom

because it's the same ratio.

 

If I think of anything else, I'll post.

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@ spacemanspliff

Thanks for the info : )

The coco that may not be rinsed or buffered , does that apply to the canna coco plus ?

I use the canna cal mag agent only because my tap is 0 super soft

Do u consider 700-1000pm to be a light feed ?

I like the sound of that , it's very close to what I use now in the terra plus

700pm is 0.7 eec ?

I thought they got away with one nute because of the relationship of the nutes with the coco absorbing k then releasing it latter , that and the extra pk 13/14 ?

If you think of anything else let me know

I appreciate it : )

 

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I'm pretty sure the coco plus is fine, but I'd still check - you may be getting different stuff than I can get.

 

700 to 1000 would be considered light by most, but as high as I need to go.

 

I'm not sure why they only have one nute, but I found something that worked just as well and half as much and doesn't promote crazy stretch in flower.

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I don't mind abit of stretch as long as I planned for it , it's not too much ( like 3x ) and it's not a surprise lol

I think it lets more light in : )

I'm not a fan of short or bushy strains

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Ifish.....I also have used Coco Coir and I would HIGHLY recommend to make sure the water is at least a 6.0 PH. Regular store=bought Distilled is perfect for this

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This is cannas take on ph

It's for their terra line , if their coco is buffered to 6.1 I think it would apply to their coco line too : )

 

 

Thank you very much for your question.

 

The best up take you have of nutrients is between the pH level of 5.2 and 6.2.

But Terra is made of peat and that has a pH level of 3.5- 4.0.

So you have to grade it up to a higher level with chalk.

Giving a low pH will decrease the chalk level. That is 1 reason why the others give a higher pH.

We make our Terra on 6.1 and give it a neutral nutrient (Terra Vega and Flores) to keep it on that level.

In that way you give the most optimal pH level which means the best uptake of the nutrients and the Terra will remain his chalk buffer to compensate plant reactions in pH

 

Micro live will stay alive at that pH range. Some die off when the pH level gets lower as 5.2.

 

The nutrient solution should be 6.1, to keep the soil at 6.1. But in vegetative growth the pH in the substrate likes to go up, so we compensate it with a little lower pH like you do (5.7-5.9)

In generative phase it is the other way around. The roots like to take the pH down. So you water them a little higher. What you also did (5.9-6.2). Of course the oter option is more preciese, so when possible:

5.8 in vegetative phase

6.2 in generative phase.

 

Might be of use to someone : )

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This is one of the reasons I love canna

They always answer your questions

You may have to read it a few times but it's always good

They also take up to 2 and a half weeks to replay

 

My first question was why rhizotonic is better used at a low eec

The second question was the same as what I asked on here , about what I should think about when changing from terra plus to canna coco plus

 

If you grow at low EC levels, CANNA RHIZOTONIC besides that it is a rootstimulator, it will also give some nitrogen to the roots. CANNA RHIZOTONIC contains aminoacids which has nitrogen in it, which will be released at low EC levels.

Later on the roots will take the nitrogen from the nutrients (CANNA Terra Vega)

 

On CANNA TERRA you can make more small mistakes and the plant will still continue to grow.

CANNA TERRA has a buffer in nutrients and pH, which Coco doesn't have.

We recommend you use on Coco an EC and pH meter to controle and check your nutrient solution, before you water.

Coco also “eats” some of your nutrients. Mainly calcium, magnesium and nitrogen. That is why you need a different nutrient (COCO A/B) and you can start a little higher in EC-dose compared to Terra. (see growguide)

Plants on Coco can also use more water. Stay prepared to water more often.

 

But if you managed to grow in Coco, the substrate can give you more results.

 

Like that last bit lol

 

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What strength/eec should I start feeding at ........... and when shall I start feeding ?

Any other advice will be greatfully appreciated : )

Seeds will be going into 1L airpots probably in a day or so ( starting them to nite ish lol )

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