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I've never felt the need for P-K bloom boosters. The guy I used to buy Canna coco from would do a real song-and-dance touting the Canna line of nutes. Considering the difference in price, I was never tempted to give up my salts.

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I am using Canna vega and flores A + B and nothing else.

I've never felt the need for P-K bloom boosters. The guy I used to buy Canna coco from would do a real song-and-dance touting the Canna line of nutes. Considering the difference in price, I was never tempted to give up my salts.

I did try 2 times growing with just base but seemed to lack the weight and budd were smaller than usual so i started using additives again.

@ledfoot this time i tried just the cubes and it was great now ill try mixing 5-10% foam or polly balls and will see whats the difference.

I cannot recommend this enough. I think the shine is ground up unicorn.

https://hydroponic-research.com/

Now this stuff ive been trying to get my hands on but im in europe so nowhere to be found here and they said they arent shipping to europe.would love to try!

But ive been looking at green house powder feeding as i would like to grow with salts and not bottles.

 

Anyone has experience with their nutes?

 

Thanks for stopping by everyone

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@ mink botttle nutes are ok if you like paying for mostly water loooooooool

most of the lads growing in mapito use boxs of salt i use vitax one for grow and one for bloom total cost of the 2 boxs £10

 

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@ mink botttle nutes are ok if you like paying for mostly water loooooooool

most of the lads growing in mapito use boxs of salt i use vitax one for grow and one for bloom total cost of the 2 boxs £10

 

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Lol i know im kind of tired of paying for water...thats why im asking about salts to learn more and i know i can get the results with less money spent.

 

I was looking at agrocultural websites in my country but dont know really what to look for.

 

Any links with a good read about salts?or any suggestions about products in europe would be appreciated.

 

Mink

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@mink most salt grower use Yara products in NL.

kristalon yellow (+Mg), brown and Calcinit

 

@Hamme Hydro... most of my crates I have foam in pito as well (1:1:1 in liters..grodan granulate: foam: polyester balls,.... this mix was made some years ago)... and I can tell u... the mix working well without foam as well.. because the foam also works just like a "placeholder".... with the amount of Pu balls u can dial in how much water the mix should hold..

 

when u restart a grow and u pic out big roots... u always loose some foam...

if u do some rounds... after the years u will see u picked out most of the foam with the old roots anyway... so nowadays i dont put any foam in the mix.

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In usa these sites I like for salts

  1. https://customhydron...5ec3f8e1782ec01 (their combo deals are ideal even if people do not understand the NPK aspect as they think it should be): https://customhydron...5ec3f8e1782ec01

  • This is my favorite site for individual salts and their combo packs are great. If you go this way, forget almost all you know from grow shop and forum junkies. Do not add anything extra thinking you are being smart. Just follow the simple and you will get what you want better than you believe now.

  1. This is a great site and by chance I had run and talk with a guy highly associated with them and helped me with gaining a good understanding of the difference between fertilizer grades. http://www.mbferts.c...ilizers_c47.htm

  • This is a great site but can only get bigger sizes. Is cheap for what you buy and will last a life time for almost all. You will need to know what you want though and is why this is in the second part.

  1. As a product line Veg & Bloom nutrients. (the V&B and Shine are a must together and I recommend adding in the foliar treatment or a similar foliar if wanted and same with microbes. I do like V&B salts as well and you can get in some good grow shops. https://hydroponic-research.com/

  • I swear the shine has ground up unicorn in it! You can get the same affect as using the two options above but this is a user friendly system that impressed me greatly from a ready to use product line.
  • I have tested their whole line for organic and tap water except for using their foliar as I make my own and I ensured I had similar in my foliar. I did like their microbes but others felt they were no different than other microbe choices and in fact some preferred other types due to cost. If you have a good microbe you like, no reason to change but their microbes did work as advertised.

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Hey all,

 

@hamme i think that you can get foam in larger hardwear stores or pet shops(reticulated PU foam for aqarium filters).

But as Hidronesia said it might not be needed just the PE balls.

I did one grow with just chunks nothing else and it was great.

 

Mink

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@mink most salt grower use Yara products in NL.

kristalon yellow (+Mg), brown and Calcinit

 

@Hamme Hydro... most of my crates I have foam in pito as well (1:1:1 in liters..grodan granulate: foam: polyester balls,.... this mix was made some years ago)... and I can tell u... the mix working well without foam as well.. because the foam also works just like a "placeholder".... with the amount of Pu balls u can dial in how much water the mix should hold..

 

when u restart a grow and u pic out big roots... u always loose some foam...

if u do some rounds... after the years u will see u picked out most of the foam with the old roots anyway... so nowadays i dont put any foam in the mix.

 

As im in europe i found a place near by where i can get YARA products,and would really like to try it.

 

Hidronesia would you be so kind and describe how you use those at what ratios and how u mix them with water to make stock solution.

 

Ill be very gratefull for help with this!

 

Keep it green,Mink

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@Mink u can make as strong as u want...I just put some cups to my 10 l bottle...it doesnt count... in hidro we count EC.. so when I prepare the tank... I add 2.0 ec from this and 1.0 ec from that.. etc..

 

read the products description to understand the ratios! and understand what N, P, K do with ur crop...

certain strains need different diet.... different climate the same strain will use different nutes... So it is the GAME... to understand and change when needed:) If u grow the same cut as me..PM me and will try to help u more!

 

Please..

read about Mr1, (yellow+Mg), Mr2 (brown), Calgreen (calcinit)... in this link

http://www.metrop.net/2_en_over_ons_hydroponics_fertilizer.html

 

the 10% money u wont spend in the Growshop... for nutes... maybe one time u can help for somebody:) who dosent expect for ur help... TRY IT hahha

 

KArma UPPP

 

happy growing!!!

 

hidro

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Hidro just gave you the greatest nutrient advice in all ways!

 

Hidro, it is as always a true pleasure!

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@Mink u can make as strong as u want...I just put some cups to my 10 l bottle...it doesnt count... in hidro we count EC.. so when I prepare the tank... I add 2.0 ec from this and 1.0 ec from that.. etc..

 

read the products description to understand the ratios! and understand what N, P, K do with ur crop...

certain strains need different diet.... different climate the same strain will use different nutes... So it is the GAME... to understand and change when needed:) If u grow the same cut as me..PM me and will try to help u more!

 

Please..

read about Mr1, (yellow+Mg), Mr2 (brown), Calgreen (calcinit)... in this link

http://www.metrop.net/2_en_over_ons_hydroponics_fertilizer.html

 

the 10% money u wont spend in the Growshop... for nutes... maybe one time u can help for somebody:) who dosent expect for ur help... TRY IT hahha

 

KArma UPPP

 

happy growing!!!

 

hidro

Thanks for the usefull tips and i will read on this subject a bit more to inform myself on diy nutrients.

 

And as for the help i always try to help as much as i can as im a firm believer in

''What goes around comes around'' so

Karma up

 

Thanks to everyone that has some good advice.

 

Peace Mink

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On 12/3/2016 at 5:52 AM, hidronesia said:

there are lot of medium called "mapito" on the market

i use 1/8 bag grodan granulate, 10 liter soft foam, 10 l polysterin ball for making 27 liter mapito

i water 1/3 from bottom every 3rd day

i found mapito suck up the salts to the top... so when reusing... u have to avoid to wash back everyhing to the whole medium... that s why i flip the crates before flushing from top.

 

hope it make sense

 

happy growing

Sorry to bring this old topic up but can anyone help me 

Hidronesia says : 1/8 BAG OF GRODAN Granulate 10 liter soft foam, 10 l polysterin ball for making 27 liter mapito

Can anyone help me out with the calculation's. 

My tubs are 35L I want to make the same ratio as he's put up. The bag of Granulate I have is 440L so 1/8 of that would be 55L Seem's a lot to then add 10L SF AND 10L of balls

Or does he mean he will ad 7L to the d 10L SF AND 10L of balls? 

 

Anyone?

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granulate bag is 20kg  from 1 bag u can fill 8 or 9 crate... it depends how full u press them dry... wet it will collapse a bit.

so granulate we dont count by  litre... rather weight..2,5 kg/crate or deviding to 8 parts  by looking the pressed bag..

everything u put in the mix is only making the medium as wet as dry as u want... (eg.. frequency og waterings)

 

hope u understand more

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On 11/7/2018 at 9:13 AM, hidronesia said:

granulate bag is 20kg  from 1 bag u can fill 8 or 9 crate... it depends how full u press them dry... wet it will collapse a bit.

so granulate we dont count by  litre... rather weight..2,5 kg/crate or deviding to 8 parts  by looking the pressed bag..

everything u put in the mix is only making the medium as wet as dry as u want... (eg.. frequency og waterings)

 

hope u understand more

Thank's mate!  You got any pictures of your stuff and the process? Seen a lot of your pictures have been removed from topics etc... 

Would the ratio you posted be perfect for a 3 day flood? 

2.5KG RW - 10L Foam - 10L Pballs? 

 

I've also got a supply for Rockwool Cubes 1cm x 1cm could this replace the rockwool granulate and be used the same Over and Over 

 

I've been speaking to @Hempyfan alot about this with different ratios etc...

I've also sent you a message about the way you flush after all this time I think I understand what you mean HA HA.

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hempy will explain everythig for u better than me:) But read back the topicks and make a try...u will learn much more!

and enjoy the learning process,,, be open and brave to change... :) u will find ur own way soon!

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1 hour ago, hidronesia said:

hempy will explain everythig for u better than me:) But read back the topicks and make a try...u will learn much more!

and enjoy the learning process,,, be open and brave to change... :) u will find ur own way soon!

 

Hempy has given me ton's of information :) I'll be doing test soon :) 

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Hidro is the king.  One of the most I respect in cannabis.

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38 minutes ago, Hamme Hydro said:

Yes, i learned a lot from reading Hidro his topics! They were a joy to read. :)

Some of them are missing photo's, It's a shame I've read most of his stuff just shame the photo's are not there.

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