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well, i have epsoma organic potting mix at the ready to keep mother in once they need to be transplanted. nute will be the tried and true alaska fish grow. not sure what i will go with whne i switch to a bloom oriented fert to feed mother to ready them to take cuts from.

 

any suggestions on a organic bloom fert that's not expensive. i was just going to go with alaska bloom.

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well, i have epsoma organic potting mix at the ready to keep mother in once they need to be transplanted. nute will be the tried and true alaska fish grow. not sure what i will go with whne i switch to a bloom oriented fert to feed mother to ready them to take cuts from.

 

any suggestions on a organic bloom fert that's not expensive. i was just going to go with alaska bloom.

I really like Roots Organic Buddha Bloom, it's a little more expensive than the Alaska, but I think it's worth it. I use it outdoors in combination with Buddha Grow and get great results. You could also make a tea which would be the cheapest and probably even better. Here's a shot of some plants from last years grow using that combo.

 

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Chocolate Rain

 

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Selene 2016 outdoors using the Roots Buddha Bloom

 

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Of course what works for you works the best! :)

Peace,

Baq

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Hey man,

Here's something that might also be of interest to you if going totally organic and into the soil food web, you can throw the nutes away. A long read but these 2 guys know their shit, Gascanastan and Clackamas Cootz.

www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=241964

 

Peace,

Baq

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I grew a lot of pot with Alaskan Fish ferts. Plant crack. heh.

Hey Baq, what do you think of the Selene? I have some accidental f2s but the dad was a stud I think. I had a cross of Pineapple Chunk x Selene and it was AAA+ commercial grade. I figure it's a beast by herself. 

SPW, I hope you find one you're comfortable with. Are you growing outdoors or in? Outdoors, you could get by with Alaskan and a bloom liquid. The natural soil has most stuff already in there if you live in a pretty fertile region. 

peace

mrG

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On 4/17/2018 at 10:24 PM, Mr Goodfellow said:

I grew a lot of pot with Alaskan Fish ferts. Plant crack. heh.

Hey Baq, what do you think of the Selene? I have some accidental f2s but the dad was a stud I think. I had a cross of Pineapple Chunk x Selene and it was AAA+ commercial grade. I figure it's a beast by herself. 

 

mrG

Selene is pretty rad, the green pheno's are the best, big yields strong aggressive plants and as you see did well outdoors in 5 gallon buckets. Great weed, personally I if I had a choice between Selene and Silverfields I would go with Silverfields everytime.

Baq

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On 4/3/2018 at 2:04 PM, baqualin said:

I really like Roots Organic Buddha Bloom, it's a little more expensive than the Alaska, but I think it's worth it. I use it outdoors in combination with Buddha Grow and get great results. You could also make a tea which would be the cheapest and probably even better. Here's a shot of some plants from last years grow using that combo.

 

gallery_8111_6011_3911109.jpg

 

Chocolate Rain

 

gallery_8111_6011_3286313.jpg

 

Selene 2016 outdoors using the Roots Buddha Bloom

 

gallery_8111_5709_639192.jpg

 

gallery_8111_5709_2315348.jpg

 

 

Of course what works for you works the best! :)

Peace,

Baq

Dude, I love LOVE your plants, But man I love those Brows! ha! You got some mighty eyebrows now lol

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5 minutes ago, baqualin said:

Selene is pretty rad, the green pheno's are the best, big yields strong aggressive plants and as you see did well outdoors in 5 gallon buckets. Great weed, personally I if I had a choice between Selene and Silverfields I would go with Silverfields everytime.

Baq

Oh interesting, that one I do not have. So you feel silverfields is better, why is that? :)

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36 minutes ago, gardenartus said:

Dude, I love LOVE your plants, But man I love those Brows! ha! You got some mighty eyebrows now lol

Not me that's my partner in crime, I took the picture, I think I sent you the link to my FB page so you could see my photo work.

Baq

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55 minutes ago, gardenartus said:

Oh interesting, that one I do not have. So you feel silverfields is better, why is that? :)

Lots of reasons for me.

1) It works best for my body chemistry.

2) It has the old school stone that's hard to find, very very euphoric, no ceiling, very long lasting, great body buzz to compliment

     the rocket ride and coming down is mellow not couch lock, you will stand in the middle of the room and start laughing, but

     not know why, flavors range from bubblegum, red fruits to Haze.

3) buds are dense and tight, Selene is a little leafy for me and doesn't have the same kinda stone for me.

4) Silverfields is the perfect medicine for depression and anxiety, even with the heavy body stone it's not much for pain relief, it

     will make you forget about the pain though.

Best,

Baq

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Sounds very nice, very nice, till you said no pain relief ;) That is the type high I like.

22 minutes ago, baqualin said:

Not me that's my partner in crime, I took the picture, I think I sent you the link to my FB page so you could see my photo work.

Baq

LOL That is right I did take a look, saw your wonderful photography skills, sorry  I never said thank you for that. Well tell your partner in crime lol he has some cool ass brows! :)

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He always reminds me of Michael Keaton (Batman, Beetlejuice) behind the mask.... every time see that pic. ha.

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I need to get the Silverfields. I have crosses with it and I think I might have some pollen somebody sent of it, but never had it straight up. I'm looking forward to growing the crosses. Thanks for the review Baq.

peace

mrG

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well, i decided to go K.I.S.S. and use alaska  bloom. economical is a plus and it's only being used to allow cuts to do better.

the clones will be grown and flowered in coco coir using CNS -17 coco ferts. only thing i have yet to get is the alaska which will last a long time the way i'm using it. when a mother get's flowered i'll use the alaska mor bloom to finish her and keep her in the Epsoma potting mix. 

i have 3 green crack moms so one will be flowered along with the clones right off the bat. as i make other moms the same will be done leaving me two moms per strain for insurance sake and flowering the 3rd. I don't consider a clone a mom until it's big enough to give a few nice size clones. 

 

thx. folks for all the suggestions. Also thanks for showing that dank porn. my new pics are in my thread

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Looking forward to seeing the Green Crack fill out!

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Would it hurt or help to put the epsoma potting soil in the freezer for a couple weeks to kill the pest? I'd like to try it but don't want to drag in any bugs.

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That is a thought Hill Billy, my promix comes with bugs naturally I think lol no they store it wrong, but that is a thought right there, Freeze dry em to death lol Wonder if that would work, course I would need a really big freezer. lol

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Freezing is a great idea if you have a big enough freezer 

I do that with my parrot food which is notorious for flying pest 

I throw bay  leaves in wit the parrot food never tried it in the soil 

maybe a bay leaf infused in water as w spray 

just a thought 

 

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7 hours ago, gardenartus said:

That is a thought Hill Billy, my promix comes with bugs naturally I think lol no they store it wrong, but that is a thought right there, Freeze dry em to death lol Wonder if that would work, course I would need a really big freezer. lol

All I use now is promix and perlite and never had a bug problem. I was reading some reviews on the epsoma and some complained about the bugs. I just want the epsoma for my mother plants like SPW.  

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from over the years on the boards virtually any well known brand comes bug free and also bug laden and seems to depend on the area you are in and their source.  so far epsoma seems bug free but i will keep a watchful eye.  i did add DE to it as i did with the moisture control too.

i used to use pro mix bx always, the bales, never had an issue except one time for a very short duration. can't blame them though imho cause it wasn't with most of the plants at all.  u could load it with nematodes and let them feed til they have nothing else to eat. like waiting for compost with no mess lol. 

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I find Alaska fish fertilizer to be great for vegging plants, I'm using it again this year. The only drawback being raccoons will dig relentlessly through plant pots looking for fish that isn't there. The Alaskan bloom is terrible and nothing like the other, lousy results, plenty of burn, causes more problems than its worth.

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Yep, fishy ferts outside can cause you critter problems. I had a bear dig a plant out of the pot and drug the pot across the yard. I had just fed with some fish based Roots ferts and a watered it all in with water and molasses for the microbes. Just too much for the bear I guess. The plant actually survived and I still have a few buds.

peace

mrG

 

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  • Mix 1/2-1 Tbs/gallon water for foliar application

I've nevr heard anything bad about alaska until your comment but i did find a comment that shared your concerns. so with that said i rather err on the side of caution. i started looking for an alternative that would suit the use of getting a mom ready to have clones taken but also using for the moms that get flowered out as well. 

1. VermiBloom (3-10-5)

Features 
• 3-10-5 NPK ratio
• All-natural ingredients include seabird guano, fishbone meal, basalt and more
• Water-soluble nutrition ensures optimal uptake
• Increases size and number of blooms for incredible production
• 6% calcium, 1.2% magnesium

Available in 5-lb. carton

Grower’s Tip:
Recommended use: dilute using 1/2 tsp. per gallon of water or spread 2 cups per 12 sq. ft. of soil and water in very well.

2. Earth Juice Solution Guano 0-8-0 5lbs = $20 : 

  • Mix 1/2-1 Tbs/gallon water for foliar application     

3. EARTH JUICE BLOOM : $30 /GAL

 Guaranteed Analysis 
Available Phosphate (P2O5)……….3.0%
Soluble Potash (K2O)……….1.0%
Derived from steamed bone meal, marinated fossilized guano, bat fossilized guano, sea kelp, natural sulfate of potash, and molasses.

 

THE VERMI=BLOOM SEEMS TO BE THE MOST PRACTICAL BASED ON PRICE AND ALSO INGREDIENTS AS WELL IMHO. 

 

 

 

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There is a guy here that buries fish in his grow, he doesn't use ferts. Think he uses composted soil. His grow is protected by pits so doubt too much gets near it lol. I remember using bone meal outdoors in my flower gardens, not too smart idea, dogs loved it and dug up my flower garden lol Now cats will just linger in my garden with the cat nip, and squint their eyes lol they don't destroy anything, course I do not know if there is sand over there they might be using it for dumping in lol.

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Hey SPW. You're on the right track now. That starts covering most everything. Roots Organics from Aurora Solutions has stuff that is in home grower size bulk and decent prices. Their ferts are the same as what you're looking at. They cover all of the essentials. Get a few 3lb bags of dry and you could use that alone. Scratch it into the dirt and leave it.

But the fine tuning with seabird and bat guanos, kelp, and all of the other good stuff just adds to it. I'm still learning but the taste in the final buds makes it all worthwhile.

Oh, and the plants love any type of organic teas in between...

Best vibes bro.

peace

mrG

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