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1 hour ago, Misterdirt said:

Excellent use of a drying rack!

Texas Tomato Food is only partly organic, though I don't know if I'd worry too much about that.

I'm going to experiment with varying degrees of organic growing in mine. I don't want to hassle making teas and keeping aerators on timers in the reservoirs, which is what the Octopot people suggest for organic growing. There is also a part of their website I recently read (or maybe it was in the instructions that came with the pots, but I think it was the website) where they say you CAN occasionally feed from the top with organic nutes. There is not much instruction on that, but I would think you'd have to maintain the moisture gradient (wet below, dryer toward the top) by ensuring some drainage into the res.

Whatever, I see lots of opportunity to exercise my pointy head.

I'll watch yours and you can watch mine once I'm moved, I'm going straight LOS mix using the Gas modified Coots / Cornell LOS mix, live red worms, full Power, Aloe and EWC tea amendments, the full power, teas and Aloe will be mostly foliar fed.

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1 hour ago, Misterdirt said:

Excellent use of a drying rack!

Texas Tomato Food is only partly organic, though I don't know if I'd worry too much about that.

I'm going to experiment with varying degrees of organic growing in mine. I don't want to hassle making teas and keeping aerators on timers in the reservoirs, which is what the Octopot people suggest for organic growing. There is also a part of their website I recently read (or maybe it was in the instructions that came with the pots, but I think it was the website) where they say you CAN occasionally feed from the top with organic nutes. There is not much instruction on that, but I would think you'd have to maintain the moisture gradient (wet below, dryer toward the top) by ensuring some drainage into the res.

Whatever, I see lots of opportunity to exercise my pointy head.

 

 

My understanding was TTF is 100% organic.................am I wrong on that???? I am not doing "tea's" and dressings...................Octopot handles all that for me, and I am NOT watering from the top, will confuse the plant. The top 3-5 inches in the grow sleeve is DRY...................wetting it is not going to help matters in my opinion.  Kind of defeats the whole purpose of the pot(bottom feeding)..............but, that is my own opinion, and we know how those go................:)

 

Looking forward to what you do and run in yours....................

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My guess would be mold? When I leave tea out for a free days it always picks up something, I'm guessing the environment of soil is too hardy for it to really take off. Idk when I grow mushrooms mold will do fine in the jars but once I dump it outside it doesnt stand a chance in the soil.

 

Thanks misterdirt, some good food for thought, think your right about not worrying too much bout organics. The juice looks legit and anything hydro/aero related can be a nightmare of organics. I'm already feeling pretty good about not using any chemical pesticides and such. Think I'll just go with that and see if I'll upgrade later

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1 hour ago, JetDro said:

 

 

My understanding was TTF is 100% organic.................am I wrong on that???? I am not doing "tea's" and dressings...................Octopot handles all that for me, and I am NOT watering from the top, will confuse the plant. The top 3-5 inches in the grow sleeve is DRY...................wetting it is not going to help matters in my opinion.  Kind of defeats the whole purpose of the pot(bottom feeding)..............but, that is my own opinion, and we know how those go................:)

 

Looking forward to what you do and run in yours....................

Dude you just keep doing what your doing, your exactly correct in everything you say. People always try and re invent the wheel instead of sticking to the plan it was designed for, this just makes things more complicated creating complicated problems. The Octopot system is already tweeked, doesn't need anything further to make any better than it is. I'm using the straight LOS mix with water only in the reservoir, the teas with High Power and Aloe will only be used as a foliar spray, leave the mix alone, no need to top dress or water feed from above, like you said that would defeat the purpose of the system.

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I have tried top watering and don't like it.I don't use the octos but I do use flood and drain method..

my plants have always loved this method...what they like ..I do..

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Thanks for the input guys, all this is new to me but you have really made my life easy. Top feeding is out but I might try some foliar sprays this round. My main goal is seeds so I dont feel like I need anything too special.

 

Smoke a bowl of the afghan skunk x shack. Nice skunk smell with some shack funk, nothing too strong but probably would came out a little more if I cured a bit better/longer. Throw a bowl in my apix bong. Nice and smooth, nothing harsh nor super expansive. Been a little congested (or I just been spoiling my self on 6star full melt/dabs or too much crack as a teen) so not gonna go big in flavor depart but it was a nice mostly old school funk. Reminded me of weed I use to get like 10 years ago. Started pretty heady with z moderate body relaxed but active high. Then I'm gonna say the afghan creeper in a little after 15 min, felt a little more behind the eyes, hit a seat but not gonna say completely couch locked and was very nice but still heady that kind of moved to a more relaxed state. A tiny bit of sedation but the hybrid effect still allowed me to keep moving.

 

Some morning shots without hps. Its pretty much a blizzard here with pushing near 2.5-3ft of snow soon so gonna have to change reses old school style...snow boots activated and engaged.

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Shack dom pheno of the afghan skunk x shack a nice shot of the killingfields with no flash in the sunlight before I throw it on my trim bin just because it really pops in the sunlight and wont be there for long! 

 

Then theres this laughable grinspoon dominant fader actual nugs. Smells real nice but I cant stop laughing my ass off at this bud structure..lol. I should save this pheno just for novelty purposes.

 

Curious how this other pheno turns out tho on the ASxS (thank God for abbreviations) cause these bugs are straight monster collars, loving the variety in pack, also very very nice vegger, I keep looking in my garden like "what's that really nice veg looking plant" and its always my ass #1 or 2..or the kf. The sour power is more lanky and thin like a kush and needs some babying but it flowers real real nice. Maybe I'll cross it with 9lb hammer and call it the ass hammer..fuck I must be stoned 

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5 hours ago, JetDro said:

 

 

My understanding was TTF is 100% organic.................am I wrong on that???? I am not doing "tea's" and dressings...................Octopot handles all that for me, and I am NOT watering from the top, will confuse the plant. The top 3-5 inches in the grow sleeve is DRY...................wetting it is not going to help matters in my opinion.  Kind of defeats the whole purpose of the pot(bottom feeding)..............but, that is my own opinion, and we know how those go................:)

 

Looking forward to what you do and run in yours....................

It seems to be a mix of organic sources and non-organic. There are some minerals in there, and the enzyme might not be considered organic. I wouldn't concern myself if I were you.

When a product is organic, they'll make sure you know it. The only product they claim is organic on the Urban Farm website is the dry fertilizer. Other than that, they say, "Bat guanos, Kelp, Earthworm Castings, Humic Acid, Vitazyme®, Amino Acids, and Hydroponic-grade minerals."

 

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Yeah I remember when I was building my system stinkbud over on riu was saying organics without soil is ether extremely impractical or near impossible. Makes sense to me I do have an organic veg nutrient but it needs to be changed frequently.

 

I also remember botanicare saying that their shit isnt labeled as organic but it's as close as it comes without making sacrifices for quality. Lots of times these nutrient lines have some type of enzyme or other in them to break down dead roots and plant matter along with stopping contaminants/rot/or mold from growing in your rez.

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I w as s gonna put up the tent yesterday, but my gf showed up and needed food and after I put some of this ASS #2 with some kief from the killingfields I got skunked with psychedelic visions and pretty much was out for the night. At least I can verify I grew something that isn't bunk.. Might be keeping this pheno after all.

 

I like this dual layered tent, should be perfect for small plants to octo.

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Been awhile since I was busy on v day. First the resturant, then the girly, then the other girls, then everything else..

got the tent set up.. fits nicely in the corner all tho I havnt seen if how the fans and filter will all fit once said nn done. Got this cree pretty excited for it. Got this jenny kush from rare dankness and a free sol mate (pine sol goji x wookie) 12 pack. Never grown bodhi but heard great things and just picked up some goji oil last month that was fire so here comes the extended kush pheno search. Uppity focused pine body high kushes great for depression and fatigue with focus and creativity is what I'm looking for. With lots of pine lemon and skunk.

 

The 6 pots fit in the tent, forgot I ordered a dual layered dual layer tent (ding dong) and that would fuck with space measurements but I'm liking the tent. Might have to get some plastic round the edges to stop pollen but I'm thinking I can set up 2 male chambers for pollen if I isolate each male and use the main room as a breeding one. With maybe the spare spaces in between pots to red cup stress test males and see sex or just small plants in small pots...idk yet but I think I might even be happier. But also 6 6gals woulda fit perfectly..maybe I'll try upgrading/experimenting later.

 

Next step is to organize clones

 

I'm having this problem, maybe some of you can chime in. Some of my plants leaves are culling. Seems to happen to just a few strains. May sure roots were not in puddle, or light to close, or air, or temp. But still been seeing this fader actual do it in veg. Only had 3 leaves. I tossed it cause seemed like not good traits to look for.

 

Anyways new seeds

In case you were wondering why it's called the mouse house..

 

And a rare shot of the v day panty dropper cakes. With secret special sauce

Seems like side 1 of tent is taking forever. Bout to flush and call it a wrap feel like I shoulda done it last week as my clones are starting to get big. Fuck these last 2 plants I've been waiting on. Really thought they would moved along a bit faster these last 3 weeks but meh.

 

Jalisco ibl Panama from ace triple Pakistan blue hammer x Durghanchitral and blackberry haze looking good

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To some of you experienced breeders when selecting sre you hesitant about culling plants early in/pre veg that don't look as healthy or sturdy or do you let them flower just in case you have a delicate gold mine? Or do you first look for imperfections in environment when if it's only 1 orn2 plants that arent happy before you explore option of culling before flowering.

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So life's been strange. My co worker got trapped visiting his family cause all the storms and so I worked close to 2 weeks straights. Enough for me not to update my thread. I harvest the 2nd side, put nutrients back to my Afghan skunk x shack sativa pheno and let it run a few more weeks. It never really finished but I kinda just moved on due to alot of factors.

 

It never got jarred tho. I ended up getting hit by a car (on foot) in a freak accident and spent the night in er. Fortunately I'm looking at full recovery although currently I can barely walk. Unfortunately some of my plants died due to needing water, fortunately I was able to get the girly in there on time before it was too big of a disaster. Musta only been out of water for a little bit cause only the smaller plants died. Unfortunately my favorite kinky blaze pheno was one of them. I'm starting to really like these silver hazes and crosses and really coming to like the blaze. The ones up now are the last tho so I must pray.

 

Loving the other shack x Afghan skunk and the sour og and killing fields are really starting to develope a nice smell during cure although next time I'll be shooting to dry out a little less and less slowing but jaring a little later. I'd say they went in a bit too damp and giving too much air  2nd week.

 

Last week I did a deep cleaning (still got q few more things to tackle on my list once I can walk again) popped some new seeds (altho some died during my incident (shit like this always happens on my weekends).

 

It is what it is I'll try to give some updates later when my head doesnt feel so foggy from getting hit by a motor vehicle.

 

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I got my new grow tent almost fully set up tho, got some pieces for DIY noise isolation on carbon filter and Male isolation chambers, still thinking if I want one Male and open pollination or collect and area brush. Got small led for side of tent with LEDs. Wondering if I can get away with just trying to se corners of tents for Male in different sections of tents, right now just separated with mylar walls on velcro (which I didnt get very tight). I also replaced some ducting on my 1000w in Hope's of getting temps down and more movement on the light.

 

Got some Jenny kush landrace sativas and jalisco ibl on the future parent for first f1 list plus any goldies I find in any of the other strain, then I will work on getting a closed loop system then I can start crossing to indica hash landraces for the best extracts then maybe back to sativa landraces for more energy, Hawaiian or African strain for more psychedelic, or the Jenny kush if I find a pheno I like. Been reading this book breeders bible which recently has got me on some stones ramblings. Also got 5 packs of slurricane. My goal is to re sell them for 300-1000 bucks 2-7years from now.

 

Should prolly get out the vacuum sealer.

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17 hours ago, MouseE said:

 My goal is to re sell them for 300-1000 bucks 2-7years from now

:unsure: :( 

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1 hour ago, oldschoolsg said:

:unsure: :( 

Honestly I was probably spending too much time reading drama on RIU. Last time I skimped out on a get rich quick scheme (anyone tapped into urf collectable action figures during the league of legends glory days? I was pouring concrete back then for 15 an hour and decided not to get an advance on my paycheck cause they prolly went gonna Jack up in price much. Day in half later price went from 15 dollars to 100 on ebay. Boy did I fuck up.

 

All i was able to think about the next day when I spent 8hours pouring concrete lmfao. So this time I hit the trigger but I'm already realizing this is gonna be harder than posting some shit up on Ebay and watching all the super nerds (me 4 years ago) go ape shit over an action figure....

 

Anyways got a Durban breeders pack from fleu du mal, gonna send some to my mother who never makes labels and take a gander for increased sample size. Maybe I'll try to get into outdoor a bit too this year. I'm finding a new appreciation and love for soil gardening. I think I must add veggies to my plot. First I must be able to walk well enough tho that I'm not avoiding using the bathroom. Apparently getting hit by a car is common occurance for common over the counter meds like tylenol and isnt severe enough for a script (welcome to the opiod epidemic where doctors over prescribed for 10 years now ppl cant get shit). I got discharged in a wheelchair but they like "hey come back in if your pain gets worse." Fucking wretched, at least I have lots of marijuana. It's been giving me piece of mine but I still am avoiding foods and drink so I dont have to walk more to the bathroom. God bless fucking murica and its 150 grand a year salary health professionals. Y'all some fine pieces of ass.

 

 

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4 hours ago, HUFFnPUFF said:

dayum thats a nice kitty cat 

Shes a Siberian :) One of the most adorable cats I've ever had.

 

Worth every many pennies.

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Finally got the chance to go into the mouse crib tonight. It was a ~3 and half minute hobble but I made it. It's a semi mess semi jungle. I did as much maintenance as I could without transferring some stuff to octos but its gonna be a rough run again. 2 males almost fully seeded think I'm gonna try to grab some pollen then reflower same Male later so I can observe it better. I started an observation chart but I'm not ready to spend more time standing yet.

 

Bob bub 3 is the Male I'd like to get pollen from, I initially threw it in the trash but later decided to pull it out. It's a bit...crooked now..I'm considering it a stress test. Got honey badger 1 and 2 in with kinky blaze 1 and something else. Getting strong smells from badger and kinky blaze too. Interestly I got minty smell from one of the badgers. Gonna have to re veg a couple cause I'm tight in space and lost some initally clones. Glad I still got this kinky blaze, shes quite a nice little lady.

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The mess was more or a mess than I realize. I'm starting to regret starting my spring cleaning on the adjacent rooms of the house. Got super in there, even cleaned under insides of dresser drawers. Took 2 days but I got walls redone nn everything (even got a black eye from a dresser, didnt notice till everyone started getting me strange looks in public and started asking questions at work -.-)

 

Made it to the buckets too late tho (it was weeks later after the car shit) and root rot everywhere.

Took clones of what I could and went back on the cleaning marathon...

 

New packs in

Goals this grow

Kinky blaze (if I still can), jalisco IBL, and BlackBerry haze preservation and f1s.

Will be looking for jalisco IBL and kinky blaze studs.

Then priority will be malawi, Durghan chiral x blue hammer, Jenny kush, and pine sol keepers

Want subtle lemon lime kush uppity energetic but also body kush old school haze mix type highs, with exploration on main flavors. First I'm gonna try to put some blue hammer Durghan Gene's in one of the landrace sativas to try to control growth a bit more.

 

Got an outdoor too so will be doing more selections of slurricane and a Durban mix from fleur de mal. Meanwhile gonna get some of that blue hammer and salmon og off of sannies and more landraces.

Moved seedlings, Turkish landrace is very consistant and healthy, only 2 of 4 germ with jalisco rn but both look great. Will upload notes later.

 

New clones and seedlings 

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I've been reading this excellent book called the cannibus encyclopedia and I'm starting to question everything. Mostly aero and nft, I think the only reason I did it was i was young dumb and ignorant. I think I'm at a crossroads right now with my set up among other things. I'm thinking about long flowering landrace sativas, the high ceiling I have, and already the root clumping problems I have with strains over 12 weeks. I'm also really getting into these octopots.

 

I think I might wanna take it a bit further, I've been skimming ideas in my head for DIY airpots. The problem is the air pot 7gals, the ones I want for the 16-20week strains arent the right dimensions for the buckets I have. I need to find buckets with 14" diameter or change plans..anyways got some octos set up let's see how they run I tried to make a lil on the wet side due to the high drainage and long time for root development. Using sunshine 4 to get started but I'll prolly change that up. Got a real nice slurricane and soul mate.

 

I have a strong preveg smell coming from a slurricane and a more old school pungent one from a jalisco. So far my favorite smell is the kinky blaze. I'm gonna have to get out my notes to remember it but its haze, sweet, citrus, with undertones of musk pine and sandalwood. I think its gonna be my 1st chosen female. Looks like the reveg process will be a success on all 3 cuts.

I marked a slurricane with a minty preveg smell, I remember reading I think DJ short who said mint in preveg was a bad sign.

 

More later.

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4 hours ago, MouseE said:

So far my favorite smell is the kinky blaze. I'm gonna have to get out my notes to remember it but its haze, sweet, citrus, with undertones of musk pine and sandalwood

Great description. I suck at explaining smells. My Kinky Blaze also had a good lemon pine smell. Hope you enjoy this one as much as I did. I dropped my last two seeds, and they didn’t pop. I was looking forward to a bunch of jars full of KB.

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4 hours ago, Justcozz said:

Great description. I suck at explaining smells. My Kinky Blaze also had a good lemon pine smell. Hope you enjoy this one as much as I did. I dropped my last two seeds, and they didn’t pop. I was looking forward to a bunch of jars full of KB.

Easily my new favorite? I was hoping to get alot of these to cross but man shit happens I'll have to preserve this female and make as many broodlings as possible. Maybe one day I'll come across some kinky pollen or more seeds down the road. Trying to expand my baskets rn if ya know what I mean. Got plans for isolation chambers think I have most the parts now just gotta heal and do it. 

 

Dealing with insurance, attorneys, doctors, auto adjusters, and now I gotta take pt but at least I'm gonna get some ayurverdic counsel with it which I'm pretty excited about. It's like lifestyle and diet based on dosha..

 

Anyways these slurricane have this crazy 1 short lead syndrome. So far I like 8 and 3 and 1/7 are aight. This Turkish landrace has some early purple hue, thought it might be deficiency but it's still seedling so I'll keep an eye on it.

 

Bog bub 2 jalisco xi hbh2 (honey badger haze this one I like alot) and 1. This "tlr1Aa" that I took note of when sprouted, seems highly resilient, beautiful and fast growth, and takes topping super well, it's actually a jalisco ibl, most likely this will be 1 keeper for this line. Of new seedlings I like "11 2" and "1AAA" both seem vigorous and healthy, AAA has fat leaves, both tiny amount of yellow tinted round leaves, starting slowing adding notes, a lil earlier and a lil less than usual. Will be toning done nutes this run and slowly build up this run. Recalibrated my ph meter. Gonna have to go hunt done my ppm..

 

Jalisco 1c and durg x blue hammer are also among my favorites with 3 and 2 from the Durban mix. Malawi  1 and 9 are stellar, 3 is nice but slow growth and 2 is very lanky. 3 is least impressive.

 

I wanna change my lighting, this is also a basic essential I feel I could have improved when I started, I feel I went a set up for a more indica small plant route but since I'm into sativas the 1000w is putting put too much heat even with my 440 inline fan and glass hood, would be better with 2 400s or 600 400. I'd like to save for a nice led though..

 

I might try to get another light, turn 1000 50%, use spare watts for and led for a landrace under the big ceiling in the inc 7gallon air pot I'm gonna make a dui with a 10gal slumper. Gotta decide on if I need a frame...

 

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