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Transplanted all except the shortest/smallest one 8” approx. trying to save that fir coco. Ditched the 1/2 and 1/2 plan to avoid more hassle. 
I can go straight coco another time = next run. 
Rooting powder  in the holes can’t hurt much. I didn’t use any greenlight to water in only plain waist. Biobizz has a slight nitrogen nute charge. They will get Alaska grow, and molasses  until 2 weeks after flip. 

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7 hours ago, Misterdirt said:

That little one looks unloved.

no clue why she's like that but she got the same attention as her sisters. i can only gather it's genotype related. maybe pulling short genetics from parentage. sheer speculation as bubblegum isn't know for it. not sure about GRAPE PIE but i doubt out.

however, because of her size she will get the coco coir treatment to help her live her best life ! i love all my gurlz . wait until u see the next update here. stay tuned and thx. for monitoring my progress and your encouragement as well. :grinning_respect:

dude my root health is weird, some were like the picture, others were a bit better and not as pot bound and then the rest were sparse. that allowed me to plant the basic root ball up high since nothing extensive had yet developed. root zone temps really do affect roots and above ground growth. one grow here already proved that lesson. so why did some roots look golden under the same conditions and others meh, i water/feed when light. obviously picking up a cup to gauge it's weight is easy peezy.  idk

still i refuse to by expensive root enhancement products. i will search for an accessible home gardener solution between google and the pot boards. once i get down with the coco that will no longer be an issue. yet, i still need/want to conquer great roots in soil/soiless like pro mix. also lock down hempy bucket growing.

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I had one unusually small plant during my present grow. I'm glad I kept growing it, because the scents are beyond anything I've grown in a while. If it's as good as it smells, I'll have to figure out a way to get some serious production out of it. Maybe SOG, but that would definitely put me over my plant limit.

I wouldn't waste money on rooting products. Some plants are stronger rooters than others. It's something I notice during every grow. The runt I mentioned, above, is a weak rooter. But its main issue might be its sensitivity to pH. It seems to like it lower than other plants.

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Installed the fan but haven't run her yet. i had to stop installation of the duct to the filter because i needed another duct clamp. i have enough regular ducting to make the connection and then do a noise level check. if it's not bad i won't bother to install the insulated ducting i have on hand brand new. have and not need is better than need and not have. 

So, ordered two pairs of duct clamps, a ph test kit w/up & down , 6 new pot saucers, and a bag of root riot cubes. i have a cloner but i think i will like the cubes for cuts in small numbers. found the insulated ducting brand new, moved out a bag of coco that felt light as fuck. then i picked it up again and it was heavy as fuk lol. hmm so the one small plant will be coco if all goes well.

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That setup looks like it will kick ass.

It might be another grow before I get the hang of my LEDs. They do make some of my leaves look bad, but the buds, so far, are amazing.

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Hey SPW, I run 3 sheet metal screws into the flange once connected myself. Nice set up!! My outlaw set up is still running, with maybe a month to go. And the big tent is down to about a month to go. It so sad in a way to see my hobby in dying out fashion, after working so hard for it. But change is good, and having a well window installed will help greatly with subterranean activities. 

The changes to coco husks/lava rock/LGC perlite/with a slash of sunshine mix, is working fantastic. I can raise them in the mix with Dr Earth organics, then put them in Outlaw, and finish them hydro with CNS juice. 

Once I install float valves, and rolling fed tank. I can let this system fly alone for a week or 2, maybe more.

So I'll be living through others gro shows until maybe July or once the worker bee infestation ends.

Lovely work SPW. Got to bake a couple of Cottage Loafs to be delivered by 12:00. 

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5 hours ago, Misterdirt said:

That setup looks like it will kick ass.

It might be another grow before I get the hang of my LEDs. They do make some of my leaves look bad, but the buds, so far, are amazing.

my only concern is possible nute adjustments because pf how led's seemed to make them utilize nutes. although i have CNS=17 FOR COCO i'M SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING going to jacks 321 cause many use it and even coco folks. many don't need to supplement cal mag with it though some folks do. apparently use is strain dependant. i just look for easy peezy ferts that are effective and as simple as possible while being economical too.

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4 hours ago, webeblzr said:

Hey SPW, I run 3 sheet metal screws into the flange once connected myself. Nice set up!! My outlaw set up is still running, with maybe a month to go. And the big tent is down to about a month to go. It so sad in a way to see my hobby in dying out fashion, after working so hard for it. But change is good, and having a well window installed will help greatly with subterranean activities. 

The changes to coco husks/lava rock/LGC perlite/with a slash of sunshine mix, is working fantastic. I can raise them in the mix with Dr Earth organics, then put them in Outlaw, and finish them hydro with CNS juice. 

Once I install float valves, and rolling fed tank. I can let this system fly alone for a week or 2, maybe more.

So I'll be living through others gro shows until maybe July or once the worker bee infestation ends.

Lovely work SPW. Got to bake a couple of Cottage Loafs to be delivered by 12:00. 

 

so, what's cottage loafs ? oops never mind i googled them. i had never heard of them. cool

wow surprised to here u going hydro but based on ur diligence you are going to be happy as a hog in slop once dialed in and u get those speedy growth results. eventually coco should give me the results i'm after. no high plant numbers so hand watering is no big deal. easy shut down if need be too. besides you deserve a break for a change = rest up, then u can slam that hydro build and don't look back.

i'm still vetting other dry nutes and i looked at dr. earth but passed on it. i had a reason but can't recall why now. all will be getting Alaska grow now. i mixed 3 liters H2O with almost 2tbl instead of a full gallon. i put the leftover nutes in the fridge and just let them get room temp before i use again.  i need to buy molasses, will order that when i make my market in april.

now, i can just cruise and pay attention to them and catch up on my data info like height/width, internodal length, approx pot sizes. i have stakes at the ready but not of the other testers have needed to support their plants. my mind is already thinking on how i will do a clone run and how many plants based on various pot sizes. i do have more home made black pots already drilled and ready to go. all 2/3 gal approx.

i'm smelling doing them all in coco based on the one coco tester of BIG LEAGUE GRAPE aka "baby gurl" I'll have to determine how much coco is left to fill pots. i'll use it all and if i need more medium i'll reuse the biobizz lite/epsoma i have on hand. basically nutes are gone and i'll just feed whatever i choose. i will add DE AHEAD OF TIME SINCE DE has to be dry to work ! i'm not trying to make living soil cause my ltd. space and circumstances make that a pita for now.

After all these years and all the years not being able to grow I've finally made it to tent city. i've only grown in a closets and a basements thus far. thankfully i can use current basement for vertical growing now that i have done that twice in a row. will need to make the window exhaust for the tent. so it doesn't look like an exhaust is there at all. i have a relative that can make it right if i don't rig it up myself .

i'll check tent temps and see if i can run the fan on low, which might be possible since it's led with passive cooling anyway. i do have insulated ducting to help with the noise. as you can see it's not a long run inside the tent at all. the standard ducting is now attached to the fan going outside the tent. excess is resting up on the tent roof and yes it can reach to a window easily.

time to get sprayers for my soap ipm in the house. mix is already made sitting room temp. i will use far less soap then they recommended based on how thick it gets. makes it extra thrifty at $1 a bar Fels-Naptha who knew ? apparently many old time gardeners and somehow most cannabis hobbyist didn't get the memo. works on the pita ants too thankfully. i don't like to kill ants but i can't lead them elsewhere so they gotta go. 

 

 

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Hey SPW, yeah the Outlaw has really made growing fun again for me. I do not have near enough light in there. I do love the small HLG 65-v2 veg LED, and it's bigger brother, 120h-54a, tiny but powerful. For flower, however, way under powered, but I needed to get this out of my system, to know for sure what is capable from them.

I also found out my old bones, can not relocate the flagstone patio as quickly as I wanted to. I'm still way ahead of schedule but DAMN am I a sore old dog. About half way so happy about that.

Being new to the baking world, well I can heat up TV dinners well enough but new to baking breads, Cottage Loaf is a super simple beginners recipe from a dated Paul Hollywood book. 

I was also thinking about your root shots above, and I remember using those pots long ago, and got roots that looked liked yours. What I did was to use a Uni-Bit to enlarge the existing holes, and put some gravel 1/2" or so in the saucer, then placed the pot on top, to allow for more air flow through the coco as you water/feed. Coco can hold water longer than ProMix /Sunshine type mediums do. 

Now that I found coco husks and larger chunk perlite work great with organics or hydro, it's become my go to medium. It clones/roots as easy as regular coco coir, but zero compaction once to wet. It can not get to wet. The husks hold way more fluid, perlite keeps air flow, and I water/feed less often then the standard coir/promix I used for years.

Just my thoughts man, you really have come a long way since we started swapping PM's. Best to ya man!

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I had planned to do the smaller led 1st. But pandemic fortune hit and gardenartus reminded me about the stimulus loot connect to grow gear. I had to go all in while I could. 
I can still rock the 600hps in the cooler basement. Gotta figure out a way to deal with smell in an open basement though. Not going to be easy. Was just glad the 1st runs weren’t stinky. 

I have grow stones made for  medium aeration and they don’t compact either. Hoping that gear gets here soon cause the other gurlz will only grow better now. 

so you are using coco husk stand alone and only add the chunky perlite? That’s interesting hmm. How does the bud taste vs your soil grows w/vomit ? 
what’s the cost on the husks and how easy are they to get if you know. Can you reuse that or no ? 
 

Update : I turned the light up some, fed a few and watered a couple lightly. I have to be careful with these bigger pots watering wise so I don’t over do it. 
 

dryer sheets today and two more pots will get their dryer sheets tomorrow. Now, it’s time to decide when to flip and what I’ll do with them. 
 

as if now, It seems to make sense to flip soon based on a 2ft canopy distance from the lights. If they stretch more than double I’m in trouble. My idea is to let them stretch at flip and then top for clones where possible and take lower clones if not. 
 

So, here are there basic measurements not in order
No. 4 the runt Height 8.75” ; width 14.5” x 12.75”internode distance approx 1.5”
Secondary branches are tiny

No.6 height 15.5”; width 17” x 17” ; internode distance 2”avg. ; secondary branches coming in now

No. 1 height 14.75” ; width 17.25” x 17.25” ; internode distance 2” ; secondary branches small

No. 3 height 15.75” ; width 18” x 18” ; secondary branches look good, big fat leaves ; internode distance 2”

No. 5 height 12.5” ; width 17.5” x 17.25” ; internode distance 2” ; secondary branches coming on now

No. 2 height 13.5” ; width 16” x 17” ; secondary branches are tiny ; internode distance 1.75” avg.

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More pics BLG in the tent 

if only they all looked like the lead female. Yet, looks are deceiving and plants reveal themselves regardless in the smoke test. 

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On 4/1/2021 at 6:59 AM, Misterdirt said:

Insanely long petioles.

Most are gone mainly my fault but no biggy now. Just hope any clones I take can  let me get some more bud and pollinate a couple lower branches too. 

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Update big league grape. 
baby girl #4 got transplanted tonight. She’s might be moved to veg though. I ‘ll see how she responds this week then decide.

if she goes in veg she will be bushed out and cloned. Then flowered and by then another step in the marathon will be in progress. Time to germ some more beans

cause I can’t justify 250 watts to veg or flower one plant. 

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On 4/1/2021 at 2:31 AM, Sacred Plant Warrior said:

so you are using coco husk stand alone and only add the chunky perlite? That’s interesting hmm. How does the bud taste vs your soil grows w/vomit ? 
what’s the cost on the husks and how easy are they to get if you know. Can you reuse that or no ? 
 

Hey SPW, love your set up!

I only wish I had found coco husks sooner in my grow life. FAR, far superior to coco coir, IMHO. Coir, is wonderful, not slagging it, used many years now. I found, it to get *muddy* after a cycle or 2, or broken down if you will. I do not need to water/tea as much as it really holds fluid well. I can leave a plant standing in a saucer full of water, and the roots never seem to get the water logged look to them.

I'm going to source out a skid of coco husk bricks, as my asparagus raised pit loves the shit!! Got stalks poking up yesterday!! Big thick purple and green heads pushing up!! 

The husks, alone would grow well. Being a cheap phuck, I like to extend my resources, so I bought and found using a bag of large chunk perlite works great with husks, then mix in a bag of Lobster compost or Jims Wriggler compost. This medium is used for every day transplanting, cloning mostly, then retires to the garden raised beds.

I also am using it in my outlaw (hydro/organic)  set up. I took some snaps of it last night, starving for more light, for sure, as I'm just using my wee veg light, and small LED for veg or flower, but it's not meant to flower out a decent sized plant like it is. This will soon be rectified.

Looks like I can get a few runs from it, it's just not breaking down like coir does....so we will see. It sure loves the CNS I give it also. Organic hydro, who knew?

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ur last sentence reminded of the HT article years ago cause folks were seeking to do so. someone wrote a nice tutorial for organic hydro using a f & d table if i recall. plus it was easy peezy too. hell, i might have the mag still if i ever run across it. obviously now days many have found alternative methods for hyrdo organic grows . i saw a fantasy 135 w led grow kit set up. i say fantasy cause in theory it's awesome in reality based on amazon reviews they doubt you will look for that shit sucks. when i googled it i was like please not on amazon lol.

i can't find anything definitive about coco husk most hit interchange the word for coco coir basically. one reptile site spoke on a difference that eludes to what you said but it was about a spiders use of it. shoot me a link please and thx.

i like asparagus now but hated it as a kid. i can do grilled marinated asparagus. but not supposed to eat char cause of cancer . sauteed is cool after marinading though. i've bought a couple jars of grilled marinated ones that were pretty good. just not as firm obviously. i have to start thinking ginger to get some done this year. will eventually be fore fresh ginger beer and various health tonics.

i saw this https://www.etsy.com/listing/843082832/pure-organic-coconut-husk-fiber?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_d-craft_supplies_and_tools-floral_and_garden_supplies-greenery_and_gardening-plants-house_plants&utm_custom1=_k_CjwKCAjw07qDBhBxEiwA6pPbHoW9y0qkU27bJZ5YPM0tachmtIymC3Bdk2Na0ILkXsm4NN_wvQyEoxoCf1oQAvD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_11502762704_114731503360_476190552851_pla-321284729019_c__843082832_277211575&utm_custom2=11502762704&gclid=CjwKCAjw07qDBhBxEiwA6pPbHoW9y0qkU27bJZ5YPM0tachmtIymC3Bdk2Na0ILkXsm4NN_wvQyEoxoCf1oQAvD_BwE

i made a turmeric with a  bit of ginger the other day.  used fridge dried turmeric root, scraped off mold and tossed in mixer with water and chopped like ice. then just added it to the pot of water with blk pepper, light olive oil, dash of cinnamon and the small chopped ginger root that i was able to do with the cleaver. then i added like 9/10 bags organic black tea. sugar after done.  that mix was more like a concentrate. used 1 gt. homemade orange gatorade and mixed with qt. of the concoction. i added mango and fruit punch arizona to two bottles of the strong base today. one is abput to be sampled after i eat this turk, cheddar, bagel burger.

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I’ll show the static pictures but not in order. 
I cut back the FOB male and took cuts and place in fridge under water. 22” down to Approx 14”. Left a cut candidate near the top just in case I want to use it/ prune it to make a better bonzai style boy. 
just want to get in practice for making bonzai mothers. Mole did that and others too.  practical for a ltd space gro op I have his notes/post on it. Where hmmm !!! still I have a good recent source to guide me. 

Lights were made brighter oh yeah, lights are estimated @75% approx. = risky move cause i'm looking for more veg growth by upping the lights but not height. Yet, more light gives them more reason to grow well. obviously i'll be monitoring things daily. 
 

I want to use the root riot cubes to clone them. Do fridge life should allow that if they arrive soon. 

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Hey SPW, this is the brand I get from PAHydro. I think for $15.00 once it hydrates it makes a good bit. I like to hydrate mine in a scoop or 2 recharge, with a molassas kicker, got to feed the microbes. I can do 2-3 (maybe another also)  trays with a block/perlite/sunshine mix/lava rock or may try hydroton next time.

I would not have guessed I could clone in the stuff as it is CHUNKY, and I like CHUNKY! With the large size perlite it becomes super chunky, I do not think I took a snap of that bag, biggest one they had, like $40.00. But I dumped the rest into a trash can (unused)  for storage.

I have dozens of 1 gallon and a few dozen 3 gallon pots, maybe 15-20  or so 10 gallon pots and all will go to be outdoor garden supplies as I go to 2x2 trays.

Here is most recent shot of the plant in the Outlaw, again light STARVED, and will be rectified. I just wanted to stay on point through this grow, but DAMN, I wanted to install the 1k digital ballast hps when it was finished working the big tent a few weeks ago....so badly I wanted to blow them up, but I did not.

Asparagus, is best raw!! Our stalks are nice and thick, super tender when plucking them  raw, and so far 7-8 of the crowns are poking up new shoots!! We did not expect thick stalks this year as it's only the second year since planting them.

oh yeah, I think I figured out how to post chunks of the Breeding Info I got from Bean Basement in your breeding info thread. I'll try to pop some over today, if you still want it.

You captured some great snaps of sweetie pie!!

 

 

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THX @webeblzr , i did my normal cheapest price search for it. found for $7 to suit my budget. = 8cu. ft for under $30 not including shipping etc.

i saw VARIOUS recharge sources  https://aggressivegarden.com/product/recharge/ ; https://www.realgrowers.com/shop/ is this the one u speak of ?

my initial thoughts on  recharge with coco is it's simply not needed because of the way coco grows great roots. the recharge has molasses in it already btw. so, if i'm not vegging long term i don't see a practical benefit to recharge in coco. in soil where ur making ur medium bio active sure imho.  i do know a dude who grows with coco and amends it like it was freaking soil = @jonesin_genetics on IG. he makes some righteous gummy squares that are legit too. i think i still have like 4 left.  to me doesn't make sense to treat coco; like it's soil and spend xtra for negligible differences. it's like the folks who want to grow with a hempy bucket and deviate from the original medium and find more complicated ways to use a hempy which defeats the ease of the hempy lol. yet, i have not seen one deviation that does better than the original perlite/vermiculte mix in all these years. ijs

i love hearing and seeing organic results but imho all i care about is the end results that suit me so far as quality is concerned. i don't care how i get there as long as it's economical and produces good end results.

 

with a block/perlite/sunshine mix/lava rock or may try hydroton next time. now, i realize this was geared to you doing a table. what i want to know is how you use the block stuff and with what else added for normal pot style growing ? are you using all 3 block, perlite and sunshine mix to make your medium normally ? or just block and chunky perlite ? yeah, i have to e real clear on specifics for me to make a big change.

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So, April 12, 5 plants showing hairs and i'm pretty sure all 6 are. so, counting this as 1st day of flower for BLG ! LET'S GET JIGGY WITH SHALL WE. All were defoliated of big fans to one extent or another. no. 3 the best one and no. 1 kept more fans then the rest and i just tucked some of them that were left. i've never pruned in initial flower like this so i put the pedal to the metal. not ashamed to still be learning certain grow methods. it will only benefit future grows mos def.

FYI i tried to take the pictures in order but tat never works out after washing exif info and then seeing them in the album. oh well.

the make started to flower because I left him in the dark a few times in the bathroom. I wasn’t running a 250 w just fir him and closet light in the same room as tent ass no need to tempt fate imho. 

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So, let’s see if that light can make me happy on the 1st run. Taste test after a 30 day cure should be very motivating and I doting as well.. 

turns out my order with the root root plugs was held up waiting fir them. All my other stuff was ready. I told dude that was not good to not let me know since I placed my order a Kong time ago... 

MOs, make a longer story short. He said he would ship immediately with the 100 root riot plugs at no additional cost to me.!

so, should have them in a week or less. He said 3-5 business days actually. Cuts are still under water in the fridge. 
 

 

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