Zanzibar 380 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 ??? or like Russian fake news I saw this on another site: e$kob@r Member Dec 1, 2019 Add bookmark #1 Hello fellow growers. I supose my name will ring some bells for some of the old timers. It is me, the original. The weirdo bean adventurer since ... uhm ... long time ago. Still making seeds, but not for the commercial market or any breeders since a few years. It's just to be amongst growers n blowers and to have some serious FUN. The breeding projects kept going on the last years in the shadow. I saw a flood of cookies, kush and many many indica's. Tested out allot of them, not many made it to my stable. If genetics are not special or a novelty adventure, i erase them without any regrets. Many people i know since long now have become breeders with own brands. Good luck to them. The future for me is to further hunt elite clones in my extremly large seedcollection, learn to know them, get experienced in them and breed new things. Combine new vs old but also keep the old genepools alive. My old elite clone stable can still compete todays seedworld. When i reply on threads i will always give my own judgement, in a friendly and polite way. ... I don't know if it him or a poseur .... don't know who this is but they're posting as if 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madmaster420 5,706 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 Daaaaaaaammmmmmnnnnnnn! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wisecalyx 870 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 Tell him to come back here 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saxo 12,599 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 hmmm...hard to say if he´s original or fake 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mushaboom 50 Report post Posted December 30, 2019 the post sounds like it was written by him 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zanzibar 380 Report post Posted December 30, 2019 Yeah, I think it was him. I really thought it was an imposter, and was alarmed... Now I feel like I shoudl have just kept my mouth shut about it and waited. I still blindly step into traps that I set for myself... amazing :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toker 3,611 Report post Posted January 1, 2020 On 12/17/2019 at 5:08 PM, Zanzibar said: ??? or like Russian fake news I saw this on another site: e$kob@r Member Dec 1, 2019 Add bookmark #1 Hello fellow growers. I supose my name will ring some bells for some of the old timers. It is me, the original. The weirdo bean adventurer since ... uhm ... long time ago. Still making seeds, but not for the commercial market or any breeders since a few years. It's just to be amongst growers n blowers and to have some serious FUN. The breeding projects kept going on the last years in the shadow. I saw a flood of cookies, kush and many many indica's. Tested out allot of them, not many made it to my stable. If genetics are not special or a novelty adventure, i erase them without any regrets. Many people i know since long now have become breeders with own brands. Good luck to them. The future for me is to further hunt elite clones in my extremly large seedcollection, learn to know them, get experienced in them and breed new things. Combine new vs old but also keep the old genepools alive. My old elite clone stable can still compete todays seedworld. When i reply on threads i will always give my own judgement, in a friendly and polite way. ... I don't know if it him or a poseur .... don't know who this is but they're posting as if Bullshit Sounds nothing like him And project was not spelled with a K Esko always did that And.....if he did i suspect it be here first 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toker 3,611 Report post Posted January 1, 2020 Im bet my right nut if esko was back he say hey here first. Prolly bitch me out hehehehe Im kidding 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
santero 9,177 Report post Posted January 1, 2020 IF it's him then he will say hello to his old friends and we can tell him appart. and if he does not answer the call of old friends, then it's not him *easy* i was fairly positive about this being him at first but i wrote to him with no avail so far ... it just does not feel like him to not respond immedtately, so i am losing my confidence about this one even being real. (altho all the genetics and projects he talks about are actually on par with what he would be interested in.) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Budder 954 Report post Posted January 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Toker said: Bullshit Sounds nothing like him And project was not spelled with a K Esko always did that And.....if he did i suspect it be here first I think as far as evidence goes, Toker may have hit the nail on the head. People rarely change their "fist" Quote As late as World War II the military transmitted messages through Morse Code. Using a methodology called "The Fist of the Sender", Military Intelligence identified that an individual had a unique way of keying in a message's "dots" and "dashes", creating a rhythm that could help distinguish ally from enemy.[6][7] I mean I think i would recognise a post by toker Doesnt matter..... He could change his name or a bit of his mannerisms But it would still come out toker....hehehehe DB 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baqualin 4,684 Report post Posted January 1, 2020 It doesn’t read like him to me, I’m not holding my breath. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zanzibar 380 Report post Posted January 2, 2020 Yes about the way he spells, and the use of e$ko jargon, but the first thing that jumped out at me was that he named himself: e$kob@r If you're signing up for a new site, you have to create a moniker, you can also add a picture. This person chose a specific and known name and a logo. My guess is he did this to make himself recognizeable. IF someone didn't want to be recognized, they'd choose a name and logo that people wouldn't recognize. I guess that this person wants to be seen a certain way. Why? What's the function? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toker 3,611 Report post Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 2:53 PM, santero said: IF it's him then he will say hello to his old friends and we can tell him appart. and if he does not answer the call of old friends, then it's not him *easy* i was fairly positive about this being him at first but i wrote to him with no avail so far ... it just does not feel like him to not respond immedtately, so i am losing my confidence about this one even being real. (altho all the genetics and projects he talks about are actually on par with what he would be interested in.) Thats info you know ..... Wow Well i don't understand it. Hell why would esko forsake all old friends? I mean i know why he left Canna And well he did kinda evaporate away with out saying anything Like thanks for your support over the years Thanks to my customers etc etc Not required but would been nice Maybe a fuck off toker hehehehehe Im kidding Anyway weird Time will tell but makes no sense I find it hard to understand Either way i wish him the best In a weird way we out grew him Like kids Eskos kids hehehe But ya kids grow up and learn for themselves I mean this as no cut down But folks around here do damn good work in their own right San- shoeless -mindless' etc etc May piss a few off with this one But it brought back the feeling of fuck him Just like said to us and made us feel like Think about it He pretty much said fuck my customer base and all.the folks who supported my work Bragged on it Bought it...not me but..... Not one i bid you assholes all adieu Especially that asshole toker hehehe So either hes to fucking good for us Or to ashamed. Dont fucking roast me to hard lol 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madmaster420 5,706 Report post Posted January 2, 2020 I'll say it for him - Fuck off, Toker Why does everyone think that ANYONE owes them ANYTHING??? I mean, did Esko promise everybody that he was gonna be in the game forever? I would've probably bailed too, this place has gone off the fucking rails over the past few years...people openly talking about buying and selling weed or wax or seeds... ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Why do you think everyone has left OG, Toker? Because it turned into a fucking fb for weed, that's why. I'm not ranting at you specifically, so I hope you don't get your panties all bunched up, but listening to everyone whine about, "where's Eskobar??" makes me fucking sick. Knock some plants together and make some frigging seeds already and stop depending on others to make you happy. rant over sorry toker 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toker 3,611 Report post Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, madmaster420 said: I'll say it for him - Fuck off, Toker Why does everyone think that ANYONE owes them ANYTHING??? I mean, did Esko promise everybody that he was gonna be in the game forever? I would've probably bailed too, this place has gone off the fucking rails over the past few years...people openly talking about buying and selling weed or wax or seeds... ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Why do you think everyone has left OG, Toker? Because it turned into a fucking fb for weed, that's why. I'm not ranting at you specifically, so I hope you don't get your panties all bunched up, but listening to everyone whine about, "where's Eskobar??" makes me fucking sick. Knock some plants together and make some frigging seeds already and stop depending on others to make you happy. rant over sorry toker Bitch get real..... Remember yo panties heheh Jk I dont give a fuck why anyone leaves ? I agree the whining is fucking nauseating If you actually read my post you see why Me and a whole lot of other fucking people Feel the way we do. But fuck all that Esko is passe So 2014. You dont know who you speak to lol I know why he left and it blow whats left of Og off the rails were i to type it Anyway Moving right along. Edited January 3, 2020 by Toker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neogitus 251 Report post Posted January 3, 2020 Yeah I really don't know why anyone is surprised that no one wants to come back and post here. I was able to talk to him on the basement and he gave me some good grow advice related to dying a curing and said that he doesn't want me to mention to anyone here what he is doing because he wants to remain underground. The "basement" is pretty dead and there is no content unless you are actually a full member so signing in constantly doesn't really have a benefit. In our small convo when I mentioned what I was growing he made a comment on how San was his friend. Don't know how someone is supposed to reply to a bunch of messages if they haven't signed in since then. If you notice the last post was dec 9 and most of the people trying to talk to him are 2+ weeks later. The convo I had with him was on dec 1st. It is completely possible that he has just not signed in since the 9th cause the site is boring to non members? Maybe isn't some great conspiracy just because he didn't come back to kiss ass here. I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to be part of this site anymore. Used to be great. Also he was referred to the site by a friend from another website(that's still in use I believe. I highly doubt anyone could make an imposter account on the basement without getting quickly banned. That's why so many people are joining that have given up on forums for the past while. There is a lot less bullshit there. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skunkmonster 1,423 Report post Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) haha, reading the topic title got me so exited! reading more in topic , got my hopes down again... guess @santero is right, if its the man himself..he will contact some people at least.. let wait it out and see how this will unfold , truelly hope for some old and new gear from esko to hit the "streets" and get my hands on again... ( all the santamaria crosses turned out to be Exo-Riri ) makes me dreamin about the `blue -Santa" again witch been waiting to get popped ever since) and if i remember it well, the exo-riri was some kind of cross made by a frensh grower named planck? and they where made by somatic cell fusion? what was the correect story, can you vertify? san? Edited January 5, 2020 by santero yes, it is like you say, bro ... the "cerise d'exo planck' got confused with the 'SMplanck', cuz of the "planck" in both names ;) 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dieseldog381 2,599 Report post Posted January 3, 2020 Yaaaaawwwwwn. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neogitus 251 Report post Posted January 3, 2020 There's a small section on SH with a little tribute and a few f2 strains so far. I wish I could have snagged a few I'm sure they will be gone pretty quick. One's amnesia haze and one's santa maria both crossed with chocolate rain. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
santero 9,177 Report post Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 8:34 PM, madmaster420 said: I would've probably bailed too, this place has gone off the fucking rails over the past few years...people openly talking about buying and selling weed or wax or seeds... as annoying as that may be, it is absolutely not the reason why eskobar stopped his cannabis-projects. he merely started a different venture and had to leave the illegal grounds (we are europeans) that he did not need endangering this new operation. although his passion for cannabis never stopped, he DID stop smoking allltogether around 2014 ... who knows if he really ever even started up again (?) *shrugg* if it was him, then it was one of the teasrers he puts up every few years without backing them up. he promised LOTS of stuff that he never made reality: like blueberry indica, his cherry moon-project, mexican lines with mixoacan and/or guerrero in it, his d-tox, the damnesia ect. anyhoo, as long as he does not answer the call of some of his real- life friends (not just internet-stuff), then it's not him ... it's that easy. there is NO reason (other then this new poster being an impostor) to not call upon his old crew, so let me say it clear: i am not convinced eskobar is back, as long as he does not say "hello" to me or any of his other REAL-LIFE friends 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gardenartus 12,690 Report post Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) Some folks spout some fine BS, with those 4 fingers pointing back at em. You can't distance yourself from the same damn shit you do, and down others for doing the same. Hypocrite at his finest. Edited February 14, 2020 by santero some people speak way to cryptic or negative for a place that wants to unite people that love cannabis. please roll a joe and relax, GA ... you are better than this !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Fart 704 Report post Posted January 4, 2020 @Toker : It's what Madmaster said; he doesn't owe you or anyone else nothing ! Instead, the man deserves some credit for the things he's done, while being 'exposed' in a way. He made (with the help of other' sharing-minded' peeps) a lot of strains available for us. We could purchase these strains (completely voluntary) for the lowest price in all Canna-land. Next to this, I think the man gave away a lot more free seeds than he sold during his time on the boards. Yet, I'm not talking about the knowledge he shared... . So Toker, just grow some more instead of whining (!) @skunkmonster : Nice to read you bro ! It's been awhile... I send you PM but you need to delete your inbox first 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamme Hydro 4,666 Report post Posted January 4, 2020 I never grew anything that Esko crossed, frankly i didn't even grow yet when he left. But i did learn a lot from his hydro growing topic in the hydro section and it was the main reason why i registered here. The HD method he advocated works and it works well. I dont understand why people who helped the grow community to grow get hate instead of credit. But that all makes it much easier to understand why Esko kept the honour to himself and took the hell off. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
santero 9,177 Report post Posted January 4, 2020 On 1/4/2020 at 3:07 PM, Hamme Hydro said: I dont understand why people who helped the grow community to grow get hate instead of credit. But that all makes it much easier to understand why Esko kept the honour to himself and took the hell off. nah, that's not the reason why he left ... NO one in "canna-world" was hating on esko, so that needed to leave, that's just not the case. everybody loves him, that's a fact the other venture was just WAY more lucrative. that's all. (yes, he is just human and has a family to feed.) @Crimson Fart exactly, bro ... he gave away more than he ever sold. it's a fact. he's the main inspiration for everything i do today *my beacon* 11 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
