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13 hours ago, ifish said:

@Papalag has a good system of npk ratios running at the moment , might save you some time in your r&d tent : )

thats a pottasium def on that one plant above : )

potassium def, interesting. i'll tackle that straightaway, I was not too sure. 

Thanks so much for the help and the pointer in the right direction.

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Does anyone have any recommendations in terms of brand for 630w DE CMH? I was thinking I'd get a Chinese ballast and the philips bulb. I just wanted to know how much better the branded ones are supposed to be than the generic. Anything less than 7/8% and it doesn't make sense for me, because I can get the generic one at 250 usd with philips bulb, maybe 350 usd at my doorstep. 

If I expand, I don't want to get into LEDs as of today without sufficient research. Also, my electricity costs are so low that it makes more sense for me to put in extra ACs over paying the capital up front for LEDs. The low electricity cost makes it take that much longer to recover the additional capital cost. 

I don't plan on this being more than a 2 year thing, so I'm not sure if LED makes sense. (Definitely doesn't make sense from usa)

 

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Jo folks

Decided to diversify into aerial photography ;) for reference, the vertical slotted angle channels are 6ft tall.  The amnesias are far outsizing everything else. Some kolossi peaks are visible vaguely in the distance, but the juice is all in the amnesia row. I've got quite a bit of variety in terms of amnesia bud density.

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From stem base to peak, there are quite a few above 6ft. 

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The entire left rectangular area in the picture below is one amnesia plant. She looks like she has potential to be the keeper, but I'm concerned about flower time for her. 

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Here you can better see some of the big colas. I've never grown such frosty nugs in my life, these 1000w are gamechangers. Waiting to see what CMH will bring. 

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Best vibes

Elchupa

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You should have enough smoke for a little while:lol:

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I know im just messing with you ;) 

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I would never be able to keep up with what you do :) I am lucky I can grow ounces lol. I love the plants, but my geeky stuff comes from what I can make from them.

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On 3/7/2020 at 11:21 PM, gardenartus said:

I would never be able to keep up with what you do :) I am lucky I can grow ounces lol. I love the plants, but my geeky stuff comes from what I can make from them.

I get where you're coming from. I'm kind of either numb to the scale of things or it hasn't quite sunk in. 

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When the lights go out...a snapshot of the few minutes of "twilight" my plants receive. It's just the inconsistency of the timer. It's about 5 min behind the gavita and I never really bothered to change it.

Got some fuzzy but satisfying pics through the cctv. 

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Some black and whites to spice things up ;)

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i have changed 2 of my HPS rooms to Leds...

the production of resin is way faster under the leds

but it also means that because I ave also high humidity.... bud rot comes faster

in annual weight I think I wont be able to beat HPS

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7 hours ago, hidronesia said:

i have changed 2 of my HPS rooms to Leds...

the production of resin is way faster under the leds

but it also means that because I ave also high humidity.... bud rot comes faster

in annual weight I think I wont be able to beat HPS

Interesting...so resin production is faster. Is it more? And when you say bud rot comes on faster, you mean because with lower heat, R/H increases? Which LEDs are you specifically talking about?

My research leads me to believe that the best change I can make without updating my skillset is to fit an entire room out with 630w CMH DE instead of 1000w HPS DE. This will reduce power draw, but probably won't make a difference to heat output. Will also drastically improve spectrum, I'm hoping for less stretch and better veg, and more electricity that can be put towards air conditioner use. 

El Chupa

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HPS tends to still hold the winner for yield and traditionally is still the light of choice for large growers.

I personally like CMH, Ceramic metal halide.  It offers a great spectrum and decent yield. 

Understand, there is a trade-off for quality compared to yield with adjusting the light spectrum to favor quality you take away yield and vice versa.

  • As always, it is about the environment first, whatever light spectrum you use at the ideal environmental ranges will deliver your product.
  • I also suggest working towards optimal but at some point its time to just perfect the system you have.
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I have a couple of 100w cdm/Cmh , growth in veg is way faster , nearly double than the equivalent in floros  , they are a lot hotter tho , and also hotter than equivalent in hps . Even tho they are only 100w , you still can't look at them directly , seriously bright : )

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On 3/13/2020 at 10:49 AM, Hempyfan said:

HPS tends to still hold the winner for yield and traditionally is still the light of choice for large growers.

I personally like CMH, Ceramic metal halide.  It offers a great spectrum and decent yield. 

Understand, there is a trade-off for quality compared to yield with adjusting the light spectrum to favor quality you take away yield and vice versa.

  • As always, it is about the environment first, whatever light spectrum you use at the ideal environmental ranges will deliver your product.
  • I also suggest working towards optimal but at some point its time to just perfect the system you have.

Please don't mistake my curiosity for scepticism. 

I didn't think there was such a thing as improving the spectrum for yield and improving it for quality. It does sound counterintuitive. While I'm aware that boosting PPF in a specific wavelength has specific effects (i.e., leaf expansion, stem elongation, etc.) I didn't think that incorporating this knowledge into designing a spectrum that is optimal for growth/yield would retract from the quality of the end product. Unless there are wavelengths specifically responsible for the composition of and extent of resin production and these are in opposition to those that are responsible for vigorous growth, then this would make sense. 

Any/all info appreciated. :)

Best vibes

El chup

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On 3/15/2020 at 10:35 PM, Hempyfan said:

"May you have ten daughters and may they all marry well." - Ancient Indian Blessing (sounds more like a curse to me tbh, the only thing I want 10 of is pounds of flower)

But thank you for this treasure trove of information, brother. You will be rewarded in the afterlife. (again, not sure how that's a blessing)

 

best vibes

El CHupa
 

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so i finally have some legit pictures I took with my faux-dslr camera. here we go kids. sorry for the file size.

 

Critical Jacks. don't be fooled, some of them that look voluminous are not too dense. but...

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this sativa critical jack will be a keeper. critical jack #7. truly a beast, dense colas, resilience to stress. just needs a week or two more veg than the amnesia stepsisters, and probably can handle slightly lower lights.

 

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a closer shot suggest that she will flower longer than her sisters but I'll take it.

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meanwhile, the amnesia row is still the overall winner.

heres' the bulkier side:

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and here is the taller side:

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There's one very curious and different from the usual type of amnesia i've got. unlike her sisters, she's got dense golfball nugs rather than a long donkey dick cola. but the nugs seem ridiculously dense, large calyxes. I'm keeping a close eye on you, am#5:

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some of the critical jacks are frosty, but don't look like they'll yield too heavily. they've got frost till the tips of the leaves though. not like mild light frost. i'm talking about bud level frost:

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that being said, some of the criitcal jack appear to be just about done, will start cutting on monday. this pic was taken a week ago, so she should be all amber and cloudy now.

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The critical + row is a mixed bag:

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Here's the best critical plus (technically critical plus 2.0 - I caller her 2CP1.

 

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This row is home to the dark horse of this entire grow: sweet amnesia haze by sweet seeds. Only one of her survived and damn she's getting frosty. smells intricately interesting as well.

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The Critical Plus has some frosty phenos too. But I think, given her structure size and stature, critical plus is a much better plant to grow under a smaller grow light in a smaller space (1-2sqm) and/or in a SOG setup. Not to say it cannot be scrogged with a lower plant count, but I think the critical jack edges it out in terms of overall average vigour and growth. I have grown far fewer seeds of Critical Plus than Critical Jack though, so maybe it's just a matter of finding the optimal pheno. For a strain that's meant to be commercial, she seems to have potential in the potency department as well, but only the toke will tell. They also look like they're just about finishing up. Critical Plus and Plus 2.0 can be done comfortably with an 8 week flowering window, probably 7.5 weeks from clone.

Frosty and pretty critical plus:

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Now, I've not been too motivated to capture pics of the kolossi, because one of the two rows of kolossi got really fucked by a pump shutdown, and the other row was just basically the runts of the batch. I will run some cuts of kolossi again to see how they grow in a standard situation. Also, the kolossi seem very very different from the one I grew in 2015/16. Rock hard golf ball nugget structure rather than long colas which I had last time around. But those nugs are like rocks, really really dense, so I want to give her good phenos a shot again.

 

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More than anything, the kolossi are all very open in their structure. It really reduces the time spent trimming. Naturally though this only makes sense if they yield as good as or better than the 'more demanding' cuts I've got. I will definitely get some pics of them before they are hacked down. 

 

we're on the last lap here folks.

best vibes, 

El Chupa

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Lockdown has complicated things for sure. Will probably have a slightly late and slightly early harvest, everything will be cropped at the end of this month. No choice. Stay safe people.

Elchupa

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4 hours ago, elchupacabra said:

Lockdown has complicated things for sure. Will probably have a slightly late and slightly early harvest, everything will be cropped at the end of this month. No choice. Stay safe people.

Elchupa

 El Chupa has lockdown with 10 kg of herb.

Stay safe, amigo.

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