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Hello grow buddies. Been a few years now.


I've not grown anything since my last grow report all those years ago. I've not even smoked a spliff after my little harvest ran out. It was fun while it lasted.


The Cream Caramel grow I did was pretty successful for me I think especially as I'm a total noob. Plus that weed fucked my head like nothing ever before. It wasn't just paranoia it was almost psychosis. Super super strong bud. And I still get one seed left!

Kept in the fridge in a sealed marmite jar with a couple of those packet things you get with hard drives to take out any moisture. It's about 5 years off the top of my head, but I'll work it out a bit more exactly later on. I doubt they will work. Or maybe the will. This is why this is an experimental grow.


The other 2 seeds I got and from the same time and stored in the same conditions are Heavyweight 2 Fast 2 Vast and Massive Midget. Don't ask me why. It's just what I had lying around. I probably bought them on a whim. Not tried to grow any heavyweight before. I've heard mixed reports where as I can vouch for the Sweet Seeds Cream Caramel (as can others by the sounds of it). I think the 2 Fast 2 Vast might even be a tall girl with a bit of Sativa in her, I'm assuming massive midget is not so tall. No idea. Don't even care.


I've got these seeds ready to throw out. I don't smoke weed anymore and I havnen't grown for years. But I just couldn't bring myself to check them in the bin. I still have all the gear (and no idea!). LOL.


Here are the seeds:










I can't even remember what equipment I have and I can't even remember where it is! It's around here somewhere...


I think I have a DS-60 and a 300w bulb run off a digital balast. You can check out my old posts if you care - it's all there. I still have my little microbox to propogate them and even though one of the fans burned out I'll get it back up to speed.


The idea with this grow is to not spend any monet at all. I have a few bucks to throw at it if I have to but all my bulbs, from CFL to High Pressure Sodium and even my carbon filter are on their last legs and end of life. They have just about one last grow in them. I've really milked those CFLs and the HPS technically has one more grow before it needs to go in the bin. Pretty sure the filter only has one last hoorah as well. We'll see. Like I said, I don't care. If I need to get something in for the grow I will. This is why it's gonna be a fun experiment.


AS for the earth and whatnot I still have half a bag of decent soil and a couple of bags of garden compost. That will do. I might even have more, but I'm not buying more now. This will have to do. I have a few sprinkles left of microgranules for the new gals and a load of old timer bloom and biosilicon and that's about it - bare bones - all you need really - kind of stuff.


I'll make an inventory and post it before I get going. All for the learning. I'll be surprised if those pips even sprout, but we'll see...


I've also got a dehumidifier since my last grow and it's a superb little thing. Should be for 5 bucks a night to run on the electricity. But it does keep the damp at bay.


I won't be scrimping or cheaping out on this grow, if I need something I'll get it in. It's probably even a silly idea to even try to grow those old seeds now what with the cost of all the leccy and whatnot, but I do want to see if they will grow and how best I can grow them. If I enjoy the grow, I may even do one or two more. Or I may sell off the equipment that I have. Like I said, I'm indifferent to it all really. Not sure what I will do with the smoke when I get it, I'll probably just keep it long term for cooking with  cookies or whatever.


I'm not looking for high yield. If I can see me getting around 2oz per plant then I'll be happy. I still haven't decided if I will do a scrog kind of thing. I may. Or I may just tie the mothers down!


I'm not going to spend long with them in the microbox - as soon as they are up and runnning then it'll be in to the DS-60. I'm not going to blast it too much with light, but I think I have a super lumens boost on my digital ballast that can take it up to nearly 300w (it's a 250 bulb iirc). Forgive me if I got anything wrong. I'll make a list of what I'm using when I find the stuff and get it out of the boxes.


One thing I've considered is that not all 3 seeds germ and therefore I'll want to get some more, or maybe they will germ but not 'take' - I'm prepared for that. If so, I'll buy some more seeds. No idea from where. In an ideal world it would be Sanny of course, but just for a few pips I'm not sure and I don't even know if he's doing fem/auto seeds now. I'm going to check out what he's up to though.


I'm sure the growing world has moved on in many big ways since my last little foray in to the game. One thing I guess is LED lighting. But I'm  not forking out for that if this is my last grow. If I get the bug again, maybe I'll consider it. I'm not after high yield, and at the very most it would be one grow per year just for the hell of it and to have a little stash for some cookies. My place has been tested for safety and all the circuits are good, all safety in place as much as possible. I recently had an ex Royal Marine come in here and do some work on some fans for me and he busted me straight away. Not sure how. He says it was the ONA block but I'm not so sure. Old Timer Bloom and Biosilcion in the cupboard under where he was fitting the fans probably gave the game away. He laughed about it at first and of course I denied it, but he just opened up and said he was doing a grow on a 600w bulb with quite a few plants so he could make oil for his mum that was dying of cancer. I know making oil is quite difficult/dangerous - who knows, maybe he was telling the truth - anyway, still not been busted! He gave me some good tips about the state of play with LED lighting now so that was interesting as well.


Growing weed is still illegal here in the UK, but it's pretty much been decriminalised by the back door especially in the county I live in. Of course, I know it may mean a life sentence technically, but I'm prepared for that. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.


Anyway, enough of that shit. I'm sure I'll knock up a few plants and they will be ok, and I'll eventually end up smoking/eating them in some way. And in some small way they will make my little life that much better for the little time I get to commune with them. I really enjoyed doing my last grow. I know I'm still an idiot noob, but I got ok results. I just love growing herb!


It's great to see the old place still kicking along. I guess growing weed still hasn't gone out of fashion, whether for fun or profit. I always liked it here at opengrow and you experienced growers gave a silly little know-nothing noob like me a warm place to hang out. It's good to give something back.


This report will be slow to start off with. I aim to dig out all the old stuff and make a more solid plan in the coming weeks. Get the electricals and the space up to speed and clean and safe. I was thinking maybe end of February as a starting point. I don't want to fuss and muck about too much. I want this to be fun.


And like I said, it'll probably be my last grow and I'll end up selling off the few bits and pieces that I have left over. Then again, the joy of growing weed might just take a hold of me again and I'll maybe even upgrade to some new lighting and other bits and pieces if needs be. Definitely going to need some new seeds!


I can't wait to see if these little babies crack open - they've been in the fridge for at least 5 years now. And if they do open up, I'm even more eager to see how they do in the big bad world they will inhabit, in the corner of my bedroom, in a DS-60!


Update in a little while...

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Good luck! Im sure those seeds are off to a good start chilling on a stratocaster ;) 

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Just now, oldschoolsg said:

Good luck! Im sure those seeds are off to a good start chilling on a stratocaster ;) 


Yeah, I'm just letting them know it's time to come out of cryogenesis.


"Open the pod bay doors please HAL".


"I'm sorry Dave..."




They are back in the fridge now.


I'll be more surprised than anyone if they split or thrive, but I got a good feeling about this one...


The strat was just the nearest white thing that I had.



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Life moves on. Or not sometimes. This is just my record of things. I don't post on other forums. Here goes...


About 48 hours ago I drunkenly got out my humble seed stash. A Massive Midget. A 2 Fast 2 Vast. And a Cream Caramel. Like a twat I dropped the Massive Midget in my washing up bowl (was it a freudian slip?). So I thought it would be a good idea to wash 'her' off and get her started. I put her in a wet paper towel on top of a heat bulb to maintain around 23C temps. A couple of days later it's still not germed.

I washed off my microbox that I've used for previous grows. The 2 computer fans on there are fucked and don't work at all, or is it my PSU. Whatevs, I'll check it later. I have one of those small fans to push air through if needs be later. Least of my worries now. I don't expect any of these seeds to germ. But we'll see.

If this little bean don't sprout by tomorrow I'll put in the other 2 seeds I have - 2 Fast 2 Vast - Cream Caramel - and we'll see how that goes. I need to get some new soil as well as I only had about 1/3 of a bag of Plant Magic Plus when I thought it was full. It smelled mouldy and damp, just like my flat. Not sure whether I should use it or not. But We'll see.

I got very few of my Plant Magic Granules left - hardly a sprinkle for 3 plants. But I'll eke it out if I have to. If I get a new bag of soil I might as well get a new pot of that and go to town.

My bulb is at end of life. But I got a Lumatek that accounts for that, so they say. 250w Sunmaster dual spectrum. Also my Rhino Pro air filter is end of life. I'm hoping it's good, if not then that's another fifty quid on top of costs. All good. I guess I thought I'd just get it in before electricity costs go through the roof here in October. I timed it so that 56 days would be just at the start of the month (Oct). So every day late on sprouting will cost me money later on, considering that is when I will turn up the power on the Lumatek to SUPER LUMENS to get even more out of my bulb. I'll probably have to buy another one of them but it's only 15 quid. So, we'll see...

If none of those seeds split in the next few days, then I'll need to get some more. The shop I used before got busted and is no longer in business. I'm looking for easy to grow feminised autos, of course. I'm not a real grower like the rest of you! :-) I'm open to suggestions. Don't care about strength, don't even really care about yield. Just care about easy to grow and cultivate.

I'll be using some household LED's I recently bought that cost me a hundred quid. Got blue and red spectrums. I tested my microbox and even if the fans aren't working the temps are high enough here at the moment (UK) to keep things warm enough and the external fan will blow enough air through to keep them sweet. The LED gives off no heat at all, so it won't overheat in the cab. I'll post screenshots as usual when/if I get started.


I'm determined to do one last grow. I know these seeds that are over 5 years old (kept in the fridge in sealed Marmite jar) will probably not germ. If one does, I'll be happy. My Rhino filter and bulb are on their last cycle and if they work I'll also be happy. I'm going to clean up and set up my DS-60 in the next few days. I have a couple of bags of compost but I'm not used to growing with that. I  have all the old-timer's bloom and grow and cal/mag I will ever need. Also I got enough Plant Magic Bio-Silicon to get them started. I've even got a new CFL 14w to help out at first stages of growth for the microbox. I'll switch up quickly to LED's from there, then put them in the DS-60.

I'm doin this totally ad-hoc and I'm just going to LST and Screen them like I did in my previous grows. I did pretty good there considering I'm a newbie and don't know what I'm doing. I'll probably not do as well this time as I won't have as much time to devote to shit. But this is a grow just for fun, just for the few that tune in. I'll try to make it informative with photos and whatnot along the way.


Thanks for tuning in. I'll be back in a bit to let you know how my old seeds got along. If I can crack at least 2 of them, then I won't buy more I'll just do the grow with ScrOG. But if only one of them bursts I really need to buy one or two more because it's silly doing this for just one plant what with leccy costs. Then again I might. If I get a quick splitter and she's sturdy and stout, I'd actually like to do just one MONSTER plant. Again, we'll see how it goes.


That's all for now my brothers in farms. I hope life has been treating you well. I'll let you know how things are going, even if it's not good!

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The Massive Midget still hasn't cracked, nearly 48 hours later. I know some people say you should pre-soak auto seeds for 24 hours before hand. I didn't do this. I put in the 2 Fast 2 Vast in to the same space to see if that will sprout in the next day or two. If neither of them crack in the next few days I'll soak that Cream Caramel first for a few hours then try with that one. I may just do the grow with that if it takes and the others don't. I'm pretty sure it will take well to ScrOGing. If that don't work then it's time to buy some cheap seeds. I only need a few.

Doing just one plant or 2 max also saves me on soil. I'm not being cheap - I'll buy what I need. But I don't want to devote so much time to this and all the stress that entails. This will be a fun and easy grow, and I can throw out my Rhino filter and 250W bulb. I don't know what I will do with the rest. I have the DS-60 tent and the Lumatek ballast plus bits and pieces. I may hold on to them, I don't know.

I'm toying with the idea of using household LED bulbs in an array. But I've heard mixed opinions about the effectiveness of this. Again, it would just be for experimentation. I don't even smoke herb anymore. I don't sell it. I just like growing it!

Okay, quite a boring update for today. If I don't get a cracked seed by tomorrow I will start off my Cream Caramel seed to see if that works. If they all sprout then I can deal with that, if only 1 or 2 then I can deal with that too. I sorted out some bulbs for the microbox - a mix of new LED 9w (blue spectrum) and old 35w CFL (blue spectrum) and new 14w CFL as well. If I get things going and the plant starts growing I have another couple of LED 9w's I can chuck in. They are supposed to be equivalent to 100w incandescent, and they are very very bright, so I think they should work. By that time I'll have the DS-60 set up with the 250w HID dual spectrum. It's end of life but got one grow left in it. I'm hoping that Rhino filter still works good, otherwise my flat will be smelly for 24 hours before a new one arrives. Like I said, I don't mind spending a bit more money, but I just want to use up the leftover bits I've got.


I hope those seeds germ because I'm curious how they will be to grow. If not I've got my eye on some not too expensive seeds that can take their place.

I'll post photos when it gets going.

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Still nothing cracked. Just put my very last seed - Cream Caramel in to water overnight and will try to germ her tomorrow. Another day or two and I buy new seeds.

Was silly and foolish of me really to think 6 year old seeds would germ. Maybe they will, but by this point, I don't want to take the risk of getting weaker plants later on in the grow. I can buy a few seeds for 20 quid. No big deal.

At some point I'll get some beans that will crack then it will be game on.

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Nothing cracked so far. No surprises there I suppose. Spent the evening looking at alternatives. I did put the  Cream Caramel in to germ in some tissue after soaking her. I don't expect she will crack after so long. It's a long time I guess for Auto genetics. What do I know?

If I don't get one seed cracking by tomorrow I'm going to order a few more. I wanted to get the Cream Caramels again because I had such good results before. But I don't think Sweet Seeds send to UK anymore. If not, then I might go with Gorilla. Haven't been able to find much in the UK since certain shops got busted but I'm out of the loop. It's only about 20 quid for a few seeds and I don't need more than that. A lot of websites have stuff on them but you can't see prices or buy. Nice website design though!

Just taking the time to get all the other bits and pieces in order. I feel tired already with the stress. If I get one seed to germ I'm just going to go with that. But if not, I'll buy a few more and try to do 3 plants.

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Yeah, I'm an idiot. Of course these seeds were never gonna germ after 5/6 years in the fridge. Ah well, at least I tried. Still got them going on, but wouldn't trust them now even if they popped. My bad.

So gonna buy some more. Seedbank I used in UK got busted. Found some autoflower girl scout cookies for about 20 quid from a fairly reputable seed bank. They take 8 weeks. This is what I'm looking for - shorter flowering time. I don't have the money to buy them now coz I'm broke but I'll probably get them next week, then it will be back to fun and games. Just 3 seeds. More than enough.

I've learned my lesson. Those seeds were stored in pretty much air tight containers with dessicants in them. But it's a bit much to ask of those genetics back then, obviously. It's not big deal. I was a bit bummed they didn't sprout, but I wouldn't use them now even if they did. I'll grab some more for a few quid next week, cheapest I could find, fastest auto-flowering. Electricity prices go through the roof in a few weeks time, so I want to get this last grow in before I sell, burn, destroy, give away the rest of my grow equipment. I won't be growing again. Got 50 quid stashed away in case I need a new Rhino, but the less money I spend the better. As I said, I don't smoke anymore, I don't sell.

It's all good. Lessons learned. For anyone who is still listening.

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Good lord! How difficutlt does it need to be?

One of those seeds germed (kind of) think it was the Cream Caramel. Put her in the microbox to take. Few days later. Nothing. Gonna pull the plug tomorrow. . Other seeds not happening. Saucer tray dropped and shattered so lost one seed. It couldn't be more of a fuck up if I tried really.


Time to stop fucking about. Got some Auto GSC coming soon. Bank holiday and postal strike have not helped. Soon they will come.


it'll be fun.

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My friend sent me Gainesville Green seeds that had been stored at room temps for 40 years!

They all sprouted! Blew my mind. Still I urged him to make some fresh seed just in case.

Have some crossed that I bred in the fridge for only 6 years and more than half of them are not sprouting.  I'm confused by this.


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