Sannies Jack, USC Uzbekistan Octopot time

[organically challenged 157]

Oh wow, just realized how much they had grown in a week , this is after I took 3 nodes worth of growth off the tops.  

[Papalag 5,220]

On 11/1/2020 at 8:17 PM, organically challenged said:

Starting to get some roots poking out the bottom, filling rez to the 2nd line now.  Plants all got hair cuts today.   Going to give them a day or 2 to recover then strip the bottom growth and start the main line.   Added a humidifier as it was getting to low 30s due to the furnace running.    Also added some hot pepper seeds to the tent, figured might as well use the heat from the led fixtures to keep them warm.  

Your plants look fantastic ! 
grow space is kept clean and it’s looking great 

[organically challenged 157]

Have you ever immediately regretted your decision on plant training?  Idk why I decided to mainline these plants.  Hopefully they come back but they havnt been the same since I cut them back.  One plant is getting what I think is calcium deficiency?  I have been using the Jack's at 1tsp , 1 tsp cal/mag to 1 gallon of RO water.  The other plants don't seem to be showing any signs which is wierd.  Should I up to 2tsp per gal of cal mag or is it something else? I'm also getting some dark purple on my stems.  

I'm also getting some wierd leaf curl/spindly leaves on 3 of my plants, the 2 plants in the 3 gallon bags don't have this issue.   Only thing I can think of is that the humidifier is right where these plants are and the other 2 plants that are fine are on the other side of the tent.  Lights off humidity Max's out at 65% at night and hovers at 40% during lights on.  Temps go from low of 66 to high of 84.  

Shit gas gone sideways quick lol, should have left the bastards alone. 

[Papalag 5,220]

They mostly look good some problems on the lower leaves new growth looks just fine 

the lower leaves looks more like trace minerals diff baron copper something stupid like that some Epson salts helps you can spray on leaves it helps  

 

[Tiger 80]

I mainline practically every time.  You'll be happy later on when they are nice and uniform and the same height.  Keep training to a 4 pak and follow Nugbuckets tutorial.

[organically challenged 157]

left rear plant in above photo is probably a male,   middle row rear plant confirmed female. 

2nd topping today.   

[Papalag 5,220]

I agree with @Tiger nugbuchets is a great mine iam doing the same this run 

[organically challenged 157]

Now that the plants have grown back I'm back onboard with the mainline, just sucked seeing them so small after cutting back the plants.  

Update, removed one confirmed male.  Middle back plant is only confirmed female.  Far left plant has me puzzled.  Added pictures of the preflowers for help. They are pointed like a female preflowers but no pistil.  There are also round like a ball so I'm confused. Preflowers always seem to mess with my head on what I'm looking at.  

Upped to 1.5 tsp of Jack's(7.5g) 2 tsp of cal mag and 2 ml of hydroguard.  Foliar spray with liquid seaweed mix.

[Misterdirt 11,137]

The last one looks like a definite female to me, but the one just above it looks more like a male!

If it's relatively smooth and pointed, it's usually a female. If there are fringes and fuzziness, it's usually a boy. Looks like you'll have to see if a pistil pops out. 

[organically challenged 157]

I ended up pulling the one , so down to 3 plants, 1 confirmed female(middle plant) and 2 that have not even hinted at sex yet.   Last topping done just waiting to get them to grow out a bit before flipping.   Still getting some leaf curl and was looks like something eating a hole in some leaves.   I dumped the rez on the far left today and refilled with plain water with the hydroguard and cal/mag. Will probably do the same with the other 2 when they need a new watering.  Some tip burn so not sure if the leaf curl is from over fertilizing or not.  

[organically challenged 157]

Well idk what im doing wrong but plants are looking rough. I'm getting nitrogen toxicity claw on one plant and new growth on all plants are looking off, growth has slowed down significantly and so is water intake.  I think I didn't add enough perlite to the Promix in the lower 1/3 of the bags, the bottom 1/3 of the bags are wet to the touch.  I have alot of roots In the rezs but I'm wondering if the bulk of my roots in the bag are suspect.  

I moved a fan to blow directly on the bags on high and I'm going to go a few days before watering again.  I don't think I will fill past the first line anymore since when I switched to filling to the 2nd line is when things went down hill.   Was going to give them a few more weeks of veg but I'm flipping flower today.  

[Misterdirt 11,137]

That looks like an Mg problem to me. I don't see the clawing from N that you're talking about.

The growing points look great, the deficiency symptoms are on the lower leaves, so it is a mobile nutrient in the plant. That rules out immobile nutes, like calcium.

So it could be a pH issue, a deficiency of Mg in the nutrient solution or too much of another nutrient is interfering with uptake of Mg. (I think phosphorus can do that.)

[organically challenged 157]

Been awhile since a update. Took awhile but finally have All 3 confirmed female.  I did a heavy defoliation day 2 of flower. Watered today for the last time with jack's 20/20/20 and switching to the flower nutrient next watering.  Slight tip burn in the leaves.   You are suppose to remove all side branching for this correct? I should only have 8 main flowering branches and all side branching removed?  

[Tiger 80]

They look perfect!  Be sure to give them good separation and you’ll have a bunch of fat 8 paks.

[organically challenged 157]

so i do trim off all side branches?  do i wait till the end of stretch or clip them now?

[Misterdirt 11,137]

I clip off anything I think will be a fluffy, popcorn bud.

[organically challenged 157]

20 days of 12/12. Defoliated on day 16.  Added some wire bracing to try to spread out the branches. If I do this again I will allow for more growth between toppings to get more space. I have high hopes for the one in the middle, from previous pictures in the thread it was the left plant but I moved it to the middle to get more light . the other 2 don't look like they are going to produce much but who knows I may be wrong, they just did not stretch much at all with the flip.  

[organically challenged 157]

Been awhile since a update. Today marks 5 weeks of flower so half way there .  Flowers are starting to stack.   Thinking of doing some late flower defoliation at week 7.  From what I have read about sannies jack is that at this point it's a 9 week plant but you don't want to cut it early or it will be super racy.  Plan on letting this go til heavy amber.   I also have 3 carolina reaper and 1 scorpion pepper plants going.  Started 1 reaper and 1 scorpion In a Kratky hydro set up(there's nutrient solution up to the bottom of the solo cups with roots growing in the solution, basiclly DWC without airstones, I was skeptical that it would work but so far it's doing well. Also planted 2 reapers in inverted planters by a south window to see how they do.  I like experiments.

[Papalag 5,220]

Very nicely done 

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